Cabs To Match Valvestate 8200 (Nub Content)

TheHandOfStone · 06-07-2008, 09:10 PM

*Deep Breath*
Hello everyone.

After several months of GASing and watching the 'bay, I finally settled on a new amp head: an old Marshall Valvestate 8200. The purchase is complete, and eh should currently be en route.

Problem is, I know virtually nothing about cabs (this amp is replacing a faeces-ridden Crate combo, mind you

), and the thing isn't shipping with the manual. From the information I've gathered from the interwebs, this beast can run at 4 or 8 ohms and is primarily meant to run in stereo.

I understand that if I have a stereo cab, I can each stereo output on the amp into opposite sides, which is essentially a mono setup. Currently this is my plan, but I've been debating purchasing two seperate cabs as well, although if this were the case they would certainly be 2x12's.

I've heard Orange and Vader are great in the cab department, but alas both are mono and the Orange is 16 ohms.

Does anyone have experience running in stereo and/or cab recommendations? Please and thank you.

*GASP*

TheMissing · 06-07-2008, 09:12 PM

The amp *should* run at a MINIMUM of 4ohms, meaning, you can run it at 4, 8, or 16.

But don't quote me, as I think I just blew two of my amps from ohm problems

But since the poweramp is solid state you should have no issues.

TheHandOfStone · 06-07-2008, 09:15 PM

I see; thanks for the info.

technomancer · 06-07-2008, 09:17 PM

You can run a safe mismatch as long as the amp ohms < cabinet ohms ie 8 ohm output to 16ohm cab should be fine. You also need to keep in mind that the 8200s are 100w per channel.

EDIT: IMPORTANT CORRECTION I originally had "8ohm output to six ohm cab" should be "8 ohm output to 16 ohm cab"

S-O · 06-07-2008, 09:50 PM

Vader. There is no other.

metalmonster · 06-08-2008, 09:47 AM

hum yeaw , vader .

expensive as fuck in europe (800€ for a cab ... okay ... 800€ = 1200$ ) . cheap as fuck in the states (half the european price) . good as fuck .

hum . what cab cheap but still loud and well-built , with strong deep low-end ? i'm in europe and looking for a really cheap but still really great cab . i don't mind if it's used of if it has shit speakers . eminence swamp thangs are made to replace crap speakers so i just need a cheap and beefy cab .

S-O · 06-08-2008, 11:17 AM

If not Vader, than Mesa's are acceptable

metalmonster · 06-08-2008, 11:21 AM

yawwww MESA is so cheap in france or uk ... yaw ...

at least 1000€ for a mesa cab in france . il translate this into dollars = 1500$

the european prices for us gear is sooooooooo abusive sometimes . have i told you about gibson prices in europe ? so overpriced

but marshall , orange and laney amps are soo cheap in UK ^-^ we're lucky 'cause these brand make great amps .

Benzesp · 06-08-2008, 12:54 PM

TheHandOfStone · 06-08-2008, 12:56 PM

Does anyone know if the Vader cabs are available with stereo imputs?

06-07-2008, 09:10 PM	#1
TheHandOfStone :pickle: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nazareth, Pennsylvania Posts: 990 Real Name: Gordon Main Seven: Still need one... Main ERG: Concept II Rig: VS 8200 + PC 2x12 OS Thanked: 5	Cabs To Match Valvestate 8200 (Nub Content) Deep Breath Hello everyone. After several months of GASing and watching the 'bay, I finally settled on a new amp head: an old Marshall Valvestate 8200. The purchase is complete, and eh should currently be en route. Problem is, I know virtually nothing about cabs (this amp is replacing a faeces-ridden Crate combo, mind you ), and the thing isn't shipping with the manual. From the information I've gathered from the interwebs, this beast can run at 4 or 8 ohms and is primarily meant to run in stereo. I understand that if I have a stereo cab, I can each stereo output on the amp into opposite sides, which is essentially a mono setup. Currently this is my plan, but I've been debating purchasing two seperate cabs as well, although if this were the case they would certainly be 2x12's. I've heard Orange and Vader are great in the cab department, but alas both are mono and the Orange is 16 ohms. Does anyone have experience running in stereo and/or cab recommendations? Please and thank you. GASP The only creative accounting I have seen is Bush's plan to balance the budget by 2015. Unless, of course, he plans on skyrocketing the debt at such a rate to approach infinity on an asymptote, causing a giant budget calculator divide by zero error that reboots the country. -Noodles Time is the death and the healing. Take your last breath, 'cause death is deceiving. Time is the past, now and tomorrow. Days fly so fast and it leaves me so hollow. -Wintersun

06-07-2008, 09:12 PM	#2
TheMissing Sugar Bush Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Jersey Posts: 5,619 Real Name: Chris Main Seven: Schecter Gryphon7 (W/BKP) Rig: 5150 II-Swamp Thangs Thanked: 191	The amp should run at a MINIMUM of 4ohms, meaning, you can run it at 4, 8, or 16. But don't quote me, as I think I just blew two of my amps from ohm problems But since the poweramp is solid state you should have no issues. Ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance only hides the truth. And the longer that truth has to hide, the more it stings when it makes itself known.

06-07-2008, 09:17 PM	#4
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 8,885 Real Name: Steve Main Seven: KxK Sii-7 Rig: Fargen -> Orange Thanked: 49	You can run a safe mismatch as long as the amp ohms < cabinet ohms ie 8 ohm output to 16ohm cab should be fine. You also need to keep in mind that the 8200s are 100w per channel. EDIT: IMPORTANT CORRECTION I originally had "8ohm output to six ohm cab" should be "8 ohm output to 16 ohm cab" Incoming Pimptastic Purple KxK Singlecut of Doom Orange 2x12 - Damn am I colorful

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06-07-2008, 09:15 PM	#3
TheHandOfStone :pickle: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nazareth, Pennsylvania Posts: 990 Real Name: Gordon Main Seven: Still need one... Main ERG: Concept II Rig: VS 8200 + PC 2x12 OS Thanked: 5	I see; thanks for the info.

06-07-2008, 09:50 PM	#5
S-O t(-.-t) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 394 Real Name: Shaun Main Seven: Ibanez RG7620 Rig: Peavey 5150 Thanked: 2	Vader. There is no other.

06-08-2008, 09:47 AM	#6
metalmonster the fürbÿ killer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 7 string land Posts: 60 Real Name: david Main Seven: RG7620 Rig: "randall RG50TC" Thanked: 0	hum yeaw , vader . expensive as fuck in europe (800€ for a cab ... okay ... 800€ = 1200$ ) . cheap as fuck in the states (half the european price) . good as fuck . hum . what cab cheap but still loud and well-built , with strong deep low-end ? i'm in europe and looking for a really cheap but still really great cab . i don't mind if it's used of if it has shit speakers . eminence swamp thangs are made to replace crap speakers so i just need a cheap and beefy cab .

06-08-2008, 11:17 AM	#7
S-O t(-.-t) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 394 Real Name: Shaun Main Seven: Ibanez RG7620 Rig: Peavey 5150 Thanked: 2	If not Vader, than Mesa's are acceptable

06-08-2008, 11:21 AM	#8
metalmonster the fürbÿ killer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 7 string land Posts: 60 Real Name: david Main Seven: RG7620 Rig: "randall RG50TC" Thanked: 0	yawwww MESA is so cheap in france or uk ... yaw ... at least 1000€ for a mesa cab in france . il translate this into dollars = 1500$ the european prices for us gear is sooooooooo abusive sometimes . have i told you about gibson prices in europe ? so overpriced but marshall , orange and laney amps are soo cheap in UK ^-^ we're lucky 'cause these brand make great amps .

06-08-2008, 12:54 PM	#9
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06-08-2008, 12:56 PM	#10
TheHandOfStone :pickle: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nazareth, Pennsylvania Posts: 990 Real Name: Gordon Main Seven: Still need one... Main ERG: Concept II Rig: VS 8200 + PC 2x12 OS Thanked: 5	Does anyone know if the Vader cabs are available with stereo imputs?


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