[mnemonic]

sup fellas

so long story short, my friend let me borrow his peavey JSX head and marshall 412 for the summer (no room at his place until we get back to school come august) so that means a have a spiffy tube halfstack in my room.

and without further adue, a panorama of my extremely cramped room of metal meyhem



(i'll get some clips up as soon as i get a decent recording tone and find a nice mic placement, right now the mic is just set up there to make me look cool)


alright, now i've got a couple questions.

first, i've read some threads on here about people patching the fx loop for a boost or something. is this just so you can have a volume/solo boost when you hit the fx button, or does this somehow change the tone of the amp? would just turning up the channel volume do the same thing? what lead me to ask this question is a quote i saw while perusing some old JSX threads

Originally Posted by BCrowell

I completely agree that the amp benefits with being pushed a little harder on it's input, or FX loop. From what I gather this was really intentional. The input stages are tuned down a bit, as Satch wanted it to handle loads of hard driven pedals on it's input and not add extra distortion and coloration. ESPECIALLY on the clean channel.

second, i'm having a bit of trouble finding a really nice heavy metal tone. back at my friends place it sounded awesome (literally no complaints) but here at my house, the room is smaller, and i can't stand where i used to because the amp is kind of stuck between the shelf and the bed. i used to stand about 3 feet to the left of it near the corner of the room, and it sounded thick and fat and oh so awesome, but here at home i can't get in that position to play, so usually i sit on the edge of the bed or stand somewehre in the room, but it doesn't sound as heavy in the low end department, and the highs are a bit fizzy. ok alot fizzy.

my eq settings are as follows (really only use the ultra channel, crunch doesn't get much use and the clean channel still sounds awesome)

Ultra Channel (settings out of 10)
Low Gain Input
Presence: 6.2
Resonance: 7.2
Treble: 6
Mid.: 4.25
Bass: 6.2
Channel Volume: 2 to 3
Gain: 6 to 6.5
Fat: On
Noise Gate: 0
Master Volume: 0.5 to 1

Bloody Murder Overdrive: (Settings in o'clock)
Level: 1 o'clock
Tone: 12:30
Drive: 7:30

Marshall 1960A with celestio g12t75's, and the JSX is running JJ 6L6GC's with a TUNG-SOL 12AX7 in V1

I'm using my Schecter 007 Elite, all mahogany with a Seymour Duncan SH-5 Custom in the bridge, tuned to B-standard with a set of 9-46's with a 65 low B. also a 6 string Dean vendetta with an EMG 81 in the bridge tuned to C# standard with some 11-56's, but the JSX doesn't seem to like EMG's too much.


Any help is greatly appricated! e-reps to all who help!



edit- also, i noticed that after playing the crunch channel for a while, the ultra channel will sound rather Hi-Fi, and fake in comparison. I really dig the voicing of the crunch channel, but it seems to lack some aggression and balls (not heavy or chuggy enough even with an OD it seems like) and i've heard the crunch channel described as being somewhat reminiscent of a 5150, i was wondering if anyone knows if the 5150 would be what i want when the day comes when i finally buy my own tube head?

[Prada3353]

well, i have never had any expirence with this amp, so i can't tell you much, but what i can tell you is that by pushing it, he means using a over drive pedal, like a peavy TS-9 or maxon OD808 in the front of the amp (guitar-> OD pedal-> amp imput jack)

people do this alot to give a gain boost or tighten up some low end sag on amps like the duel and triple rectifiers that tend to be a little too loose in the bass department, i dont know if you knew all this or not, but it just sounded like you didnt from what you posted

[kmanick]

No the JSX doesn't like EMG's (one of the main reasons I sold my hellraiser nd my Loomis).
I run mine with the master volume up at 5 and then I dial in the channel volume, to me mine sounds thicker this way.
engaging the loop also thickens the sound up as well (I don't know why but it does).
also turn the onboard noise gate no higher than 5-8 as that is one of the controls on this amp that can add a "nasally" tone to the sounds.
experiment with th mid control anywhere between 4-7, it drastically changes the tone of the amp, It really opens up at around 6 or so.

[mnemonic]

oh yeah, i know about OD pedals, i use one to tighten it up a bit and add a bit more aggression to the amp, great little boxes

the thread had alot of discussion about putting a patch cable in the fx loop as a boost tho, thats jsut what i assume he was talking about (JSX regains favour)

Originally Posted by kmanick

No the JSX doesn't like EMG's (one of the main reasons I sold my hellraiser nd my Loomis).
I run mine with the master volume up at 5 and then I dial in the channel volume, to me mine sounds thicker this way.
engaging the loop also thickens the sound up as well (I don't know why but it does).
also turn the onboard noise gate no higher than 5-8 as that is one of the controls on this amp that can add a "nasally" tone to the sounds.
experiment with th mid control anywhere between 4-7, it drastically changes the tone of the amp, It really opens up at around 6 or so.

yeah i konw what you're talking about with the noise gate, i hated the way it messed with the tone, so i just leave it off (not too much noise anyway, i can deal with it)

and yeah, i'm gona have to mess with the mids knob a bit, i'll try that out tomorrow (a bit late right now)




and i forgot to list bands i like, mainly i'm going for a tone similar to Nevermore, Alter Bridge, Chevelle, and i guess some Strapping Young Lad (although devys tone can be rather harsh and overly thin/tight at times)

[ChrisPcritter]

Damn bro,
You need to bring that over here so we can jam... As for the boost with the fx loop, an od pedal pushes the preamp and a patch cord on an am with controls on the fx loop (send level / return level) can push the power section a little higher giving more depth of sound for lack of a better way to describe it...

[Bound]

Lol, Aric actually gave that beast up for the summer, eh?

Anyways. I'm not familiar with 'Dime'ing a JSX. I know you can do so with a 5150. Hit up Budda he'd know about that. As he has a JSX and I believe we talked about some 5150 combo stuffs a while ago.

For a nice heavy tone, have Aric flip for an MXR 10-band. Or buy it for him or yourself. Neither one of you will regret it. Stick it in the loop and boost the frequencies you find lacking. You can also hit the tubes harder by raising the gain and volume sliders (the volume is useless imho) but bring them up just before hard clipping. I don't even have a fantastic amp or anything and it really brought the thing to life.

Don't be scared to bring the mids on the amp up either. Especially if you grab an EQ. It'll definately add some beef. If you don't like low mid crunch too, you can scoop it out and get more of a traditional 80's buzzsaw. If that's what you're going for. Mids=punch, though.

Good luck. Tell Aric I hate him.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by kmanick

No the JSX doesn't like EMG's (one of the main reasons I sold my hellraiser nd my Loomis).
I run mine with the master volume up at 5 and then I dial in the channel volume, to me mine sounds thicker this way.
engaging the loop also thickens the sound up as well (I don't know why but it does).
also turn the onboard noise gate no higher than 5-8 as that is one of the controls on this amp that can add a "nasally" tone to the sounds.
experiment with th mid control anywhere between 4-7, it drastically changes the tone of the amp, It really opens up at around 6 or so.

It consequently doesn't like Blackouts either, which is what I am currently struggling with.

I have a choice to make; either the JSX goes or the ATX goes, because they just do not sound good together.

[Bound]

^^^

reason # 237 to own DiMarzio Evolutions

[budda]

IT DOESNT LIKE BLACKOUTS? WELL FUCK!

i leave my gate on 10 most of the time.. not like it does much anyway.

1. you dont need to put a cable in the FX loop - just turn both knobs to 10, and leave it on. this is the full 120W monster you're hearing. more body, more warmth, better tone.

2. EQ: resonance and presence can generally stay on 5. EMG's, i'd just run presence on 2 or off. i run a little extra resonance cuz.. well.. its fun haha. turn all EQ knobs to 7 on both channels. gain on 5 (out of 10) on the crunch channel, gain on 1.7 on the ultra channel. FAT SWITCHES OFF. boost it.

3. high gain input. live here. it makes things nice.

one thing you have to remember - the crunch channel will do metal better then the ultra channel - i run the gain real low on the ultra so that i get that open rawness that the crunch channel has. i've managed to clone the channels before, and the ultra channel is a bit tighter and compressed - this is pretty much how im running the amp now.

4. you have it for the whole summer? you may want to try KT77's..

EQ between 6 or 7, run as low gain as you can and boost for the metal chunk, fx loop dimed and always on, and run the amp as loud as you can get away with.

now you guys have me worried for my Carvin though, it has blackouts..

[kmanick]

+ 100 on bounds suggestion of running an MXR 10 band EQ in the loop.
I couldn't even think of running mine without it anymore.
I put the mids on the amp up at around 7 and then I dial in the lower mid freq
on the MXR and it really thickens the tone of the amp up without adding any mud.
when I run mine without the EQ on now, it sounds like a little transister radio to me.
It really brought it to life.
oh and this amp loooooooooooooooooooooves Bareknuckle pickups