[Edroz]

Originally Posted by encasedmetal

can anyone describe why they are better though- I have heard good things as well- however, for the price it's hard to believe- that it's that much better. The VHT P50 cab is by far my favorite cab so far- and they're hella expensive. Not saying everything must cost a ton- but with guitar equipment - you get what you pay for- so does this cab really compete with the Uberkab and the other well known /more expensive 4x12's or is money playing a factor. I only ask- cause who doesn't want more for less?

the price is less because they sell direct. if Vaders were available at your local guitar center (or any other store), they would be a grand or more.

as far as them being "better" than anything else, that's for your ears to decide.

[7 Strings of Hate]

plus they dont have a name behind them, like mesa or marshall. they are primarily for metal players. I'v played a 4x12 and must say, for metal, these cabs are the best IMO. Unbelievabley loud, but clear and articulate. the bass didnt drown out the highs and mids. if you were going to be doing cleans in there, i probably wouldnt always go with a vader, but if your playing metal, i'd always go with a vader

[encasedmetal]

is there info on the wood used- and the speakers used as well? For instance the krank cabs are made like shit- and only sound good for El34 applications, given the speakers used. Mesa Vin30s are great but not as clear or punchy as other speakers.

[Edroz]

Originally Posted by encasedmetal

is there info on the wood used- and the speakers used as well? For instance the krank cabs are made like shit- and only sound good for El34 applications, given the speakers used. Mesa Vin30s are great but not as clear or punchy as other speakers.

3/4" birch plywood

custom Eminence Legend Speakers only available in Vader cabs


all the info you need is on the website

Vader Cabinets Inc.

[Prada3353]

yeah, i'm a little leary (if thats how you spell it) about using anything but Celestion V30's, since thats what i've always played, but everyone seems to like these amps for metal, and i have yet to hear anything bad about them

[Napalm]

Originally Posted by encasedmetal

can anyone describe why they are better though- I have heard good things as well- however, for the price it's hard to believe- that it's that much better. The VHT P50 cab is by far my favorite cab so far- and they're hella expensive. Not saying everything must cost a ton- but with guitar equipment - you get what you pay for- so does this cab really compete with the Uberkab and the other well known /more expensive 4x12's or is money playing a factor. I only ask- cause who doesn't want more for less?

I'm with you man...VHT P50 Cabs have always been the shit to me but Ive always wanted to try a Vader, the thing is in the past I tried out a few smaller companies products and they were shit and they had Eminence custom voiced speakers so I can see where people are Leary. But Ive also looked at a lot of what people have had to say about Vader on this forum and Ive never heard anything that would stray from them being bad ass also. Sorry if this post doesn't convey what I'm trying to say.

[Unknown Doodl3.2]

I only have a 2x12... and trust me, I'm never putting my money anywhere else but with Vader when it comes to cabs. I have lots of practicing to do over the summer, and if I'm successful in what I want to achieve I'm getting myself a 4x12 for encouragement (and because I want one so bad).

I cannot say anything bad about Vader... period.