VHT Sig:X vs Mark IV?

noodles · 05-12-2008, 02:03 PM

JCM800s are fucking epic. I plug into the one at GC everytime I am in there. That, and an OD-1, is the sound of thrash.

Drew · 05-12-2008, 02:21 PM

That, stock, with a high output bridge humbucker and a fuckload of volume to drive the poweramp into clipping, is THE sound of lead guitar.

the.godfather · 05-12-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by matt7

I'd rather have the cheap boogies though=/

Seconded!

I'm still hunting for a Mark IV combo, I'm just not paying the £2000+ for a new one. So I'll forever be hunting for a reasonably-priced one 'used' somewhere.

newfinator · 05-12-2008, 02:22 PM

Thanks everyone for all the replys.

The ENGL Invader certainly sounds good on paper and I've read good reviews but, like the VHT, nobody anywhere near me sells them so I have no chance to try them out. I'd be buying on faith and hoping I never needed service but that's the way it goes I guess.

I tried the Stiletto once and thought it was pretty good. It kind of reminded me of my Legacy but with more gain and clarity. I think if I replaced the Legacy I'd likely go with A Stiletto. I think I was looking for more of a departure from what I currently have as I am still keeping the 5150 and the Legacy. Maybe that's why I was initially thinking Road King or Mark IV. They're just different enough.

noodles · 05-12-2008, 02:33 PM

Unless you absolutely, positively MUST have the need to mix EL-34s and 6L6s, then skip the Road King and grab the Roadster. It's a whole lot less scratch for the same four channels.

Ch2/Brit on the Roadster/RK is actually a really usable Plexi-like sound. It is not as Marshall as a Stiletto, but for what it is, it is a great channel, and a wonderful way to get usable Marshall tones out of one amp at a gig.

newfinator · 05-12-2008, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodles

Unless you absolutely, positively MUST have the need to mix EL-34s and 6L6s, then skip the Road King and grab the Roadster. It's a whole lot less scratch for the same four channels.

Ch2/Brit on the Roadster/RK is actually a really usable Plexi-like sound. It is not as Marshall as a Stiletto, but for what it is, it is a great channel, and a wonderful way to get usable Marshall tones out of one amp at a gig.

With either the Road King or Roadster can you dial out the stereotypical recto fuzz, if you know what I mean? Mind you, maybe you can even on a regular dual recto. I never spent enough time on one to find out.

Drew · 05-12-2008, 02:52 PM

I hated Rectos for that reason right up until the day I bought one. The problem is the way to dial them in is pretty unintuitive, and then they still sound fizzy and flubby until the poweramp gets moving. A Tung-sol and a Tube Screamer help loads, too.

noodles · 05-12-2008, 03:00 PM

What Drew said. Low volumes is the main source of the fuzz, and it goes away as you turn it up. Plus, they really benefit from a tube swap, and speakers that are not V30s.

matt7 · 05-12-2008, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodles

Your JVM only costs less because you live in Ireland. Over here, they are about $300 more. Mesa doesn't put MIDI on their amps, because they don't like adding a bunch of onboard electronics that aren't part of the preamp or power amp.

So yeah, if anyone has a roadster and wants a JVM without paying the insane price you americans get charged. Feel free to hop on a plane to Belfast and I'll sort you out

*Ahh blind optimism

newfinator · 05-12-2008, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodles

What Drew said. Low volumes is the main source of the fuzz, and it goes away as you turn it up. Plus, they really benefit from a tube swap, and speakers that are not V30s.

That's odd being the recto cabs are loaded with V30s. Did mesa get it that wrong?

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newfinator The LORD OF BYRON Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 42.9° N, 81.3° W Posts: 145 Main Seven: UV777BK Rig: Legacy & 5150 Heads Thanked: 0	Thanks everyone for all the replys. The ENGL Invader certainly sounds good on paper and I've read good reviews but, like the VHT, nobody anywhere near me sells them so I have no chance to try them out. I'd be buying on faith and hoping I never needed service but that's the way it goes I guess. I tried the Stiletto once and thought it was pretty good. It kind of reminded me of my Legacy but with more gain and clarity. I think if I replaced the Legacy I'd likely go with A Stiletto. I think I was looking for more of a departure from what I currently have as I am still keeping the 5150 and the Legacy. Maybe that's why I was initially thinking Road King or Mark IV. They're just different enough.

05-12-2008, 02:33 PM	#55 (permalink)
noodles Blood Puke • Super Moderator • Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 21,273 Real Name: Dave Main Seven: KxK V7 - The Emo Killer Rig: Roadster/GMaj/4x12 Thanked: 264	Unless you absolutely, positively MUST have the need to mix EL-34s and 6L6s, then skip the Road King and grab the Roadster. It's a whole lot less scratch for the same four channels. Ch2/Brit on the Roadster/RK is actually a really usable Plexi-like sound. It is not as Marshall as a Stiletto, but for what it is, it is a great channel, and a wonderful way to get usable Marshall tones out of one amp at a gig.

05-12-2008, 02:52 PM	#57 (permalink)
Drew Fear the Polo! • Super Moderator • Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 28,953 Real Name: Call me Ahab... Main Seven: 1991 Ibanez UV7PWH Main ERG: Sherman 5-string bass Rig: Mesa Recto-verb 50 Thanked: 137	I hated Rectos for that reason right up until the day I bought one. The problem is the way to dial them in is pretty unintuitive, and then they still sound fizzy and flubby until the poweramp gets moving. A Tung-sol and a Tube Screamer help loads, too.

05-12-2008, 03:00 PM	#58 (permalink)
noodles Blood Puke • Super Moderator • Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 21,273 Real Name: Dave Main Seven: KxK V7 - The Emo Killer Rig: Roadster/GMaj/4x12 Thanked: 264	What Drew said. Low volumes is the main source of the fuzz, and it goes away as you turn it up. Plus, they really benefit from a tube swap, and speakers that are not V30s.


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