[trippled]

Hello Everyone!!
The big difference beetwin this thred and all the others ive allready done, is that this time im having all the money for a new high gain head and im going tomorrow for a shops tour.
So im not asking about better/worse but about more pro's and con's and opinions on the following amps:
1.Orange Rockerverb.
2.Rivera Quiana.
3.Rivera Fandango.
4.Egnater Tourmaster
5.Engl Savage.
6.Laboga Mr hector(The worst choice from my point of view).
Thanks,
Trippled.

[ibznorange]

Those riveras will NOT have anywhere near enough gain on their own, and even with a good boost you could find them lacking
If you want a rivera (which i personally do too) check the M or S series (same thing, s series has reverb built in), the knuckleheads (the K, S, and M series all will need good boosting, but can get alot of gain that way), or the ktre, which is basically a gained up knucklehead, some of which have reverbs. Those are all suitable for highgain applications, the ones you posted really are not aimed that way at all. those are more like boutique fender clone types.
The rockerverb is an amazing amp. pretty loose though. really loose actually. Some AMAZING cleans though, and a solid amount of gain (depending on how much you like, you MIGHT need to boost for gain, but you WILL need to boost for tightness) that sounds really good.

Ive only spent maybe 15-20 minuts on a savage, and havent touched the others, so i cant really say about them

[TheHandOfStone]

Originally Posted by ibznorange

Those riveras will NOT have anywhere near enough gain on their own, and even with a good boost you could find them lacking
If you want a rivera (which i personally do too) check the M or S series (same thing, s series has reverb built in), the knuckleheads (the K, S, and M series all will need good boosting, but can get alot of gain that way), or the ktre, which is basically a gained up knucklehead, some of which have reverbs. Those are all suitable for highgain applications, the ones you posted really are not aimed that way at all. those are more like boutique fender clone types.
The rockerverb is an amazing amp. pretty loose though. really loose actually. Some AMAZING cleans though, and a solid amount of gain (depending on how much you like, you MIGHT need to boost for gain, but you WILL need to boost for tightness) that sounds really good.

Ive only spent maybe 15-20 minuts on a savage, and havent touched the others, so i cant really say about them

I have virtually no experience with high-end amplifiers, but I will second the bit about the orange. The rhythm guitarist for A Life Once Lost was using an Orange, and although I much preferred the sound to the lead guitarist's Randall, it didn't cut in the mix very well at all. Could be partly the soundman's fault, but still...

[ibznorange]

Needed a good boost, and the dude probably cut the midrange too much on the amp. Its easy to do with the oranges when youve got them gained up, since theyre so loose and otherwise turn to mud easily

[trippled]

Well i really love loose tone.
I really dig sikth's tone on death of a dead day and i heard they used an uberschall which is a pretty loose amp(which i cant buy cause i live in israel and there are no uberschalls here).
Which amps would you recommend instead of the orange?
I once thought on buying a framus dragon buy i cant try it before too.
Waiting for your replies.
Thanks.

[ibznorange]

If you like uberschalls id say the orange would be right up your alley.
You cant order an uberschall in from a US store?

[trippled]

Actually no.
If ill buy a uberschall it will be second hand cause thats what i can afford.
I can buy it second hand but i cant try it before.
I was thinking on a framus dragon but i cant try that one too.
But youre saying the orange and the uberschall are similar in their voicing?
The only thing that disturbed me in the orange was the kack of options.

[petereanima]

i can't say anything on the riveras and egnaters, but for the rest - my vote would go for the savage. i almost bought one (but then i tried the diezel, you know...) and i used it for two weeks in the studio.

the savage is, together with the SE, imho the best of the ENGLs. veryvery versatile and nearly every sound of it is good. but if you like the losseness of an orange the savage might be too tight for you. you can make it sound a little bit more open by turning down channel volume and increasing master vol. but if you are more into loose sounds i woudl not buy the savage blind!

[neroceasar]

you should save up a bit more money and get a Rivera Seven. it'll be unique seeing as how there are only like 5 in the world and Mick Thompson has 2 of them!

[trippled]

Well i went today to the shop to try some rivera's and here is my impression:
The guy who said that the fandango doesnt have enough gain is to my opinion seriously wrong.
The amp has just the amount of gain that i need and is LOOOOOSEEEEEE but actually not too much cause the note definition is still clear.
Idsay from the clips i saw that its similar to the uberschall on the voicing type and to the orange too, but has much more definition.
It really shined to me and i could really hear my signature sound coming out from the cab.
Absolutely phenomenal, and the clean channel is great too, alot of headroom.