[ibznorange]

Originally Posted by trippled

Actually no.
If ill buy a uberschall it will be second hand cause thats what i can afford.
I can buy it second hand but i cant try it before.
I was thinking on a framus dragon but i cant try that one too.
But youre saying the orange and the uberschall are similar in their voicing?
The only thing that disturbed me in the orange was the kack of options.

theyre not voiced too similarly per set, but they respond similarly and their voicing isnt exactly way different either. They have that thick gainy groove to them when you crank the gain up.

[ibznorange]

Originally Posted by trippled

Well i went today to the shop to try some rivera's and here is my impression:
The guy who said that the fandango doesnt have enough gain is to my opinion seriously wrong.
The amp has just the amount of gain that i need and is LOOOOOSEEEEEE but actually not too much cause the note definition is still clear.
Idsay from the clips i saw that its similar to the uberschall on the voicing type and to the orange too, but has much more definition.
It really shined to me and i could really hear my signature sound coming out from the cab.
Absolutely phenomenal, and the clean channel is great too, alot of headroom.

Im just gonna take that as a sign that you dont use an awful lot of gain
If you like it, go for it. they dont have enough gain for most people, but they do sound great
if you think its what you want dude, then check it out another time to make sure, and go for it. I imagine its hardly something youd regret

[trippled]

I really doubt someone tried the fandango seriously.
Well i cranked the gain up but i didnt needed any more at all, and i love alot of gain usually.

[ibznorange]

Define what you like as a lot of gain? just out of curiosity. Not trying to challenge you or anything, just trying to see how our definitions of things vary . I also consider the evo2 to be on the hot end of medium output, when it comes to pickups , so i know my opinion of "enough gain" can be a bit different than other peoples.
If you like it dude, get on it for sure though . Rivera's are badass amplifiers, and id gladly own either of the ones you mentioned, just not for playing metal really. Usable for hardrock for sure.
When we checked em out we were able to get about as much gain out of it as out of my buddies old orange graphics series. Not gainless by any means, but hardly enough for what id want with my main/metal amp.
If it does it for you though, then i dont see why not. If you've played it and liked it, thats what matters, not what i say about it

[trippled]

Listen to a stone sour cd, its the same sound that amp produces with the same amount of gain.

[InTheRavensName]

Vader used Labogas last night, their sound was pretty bad individually (worst bits of a recto and a 5150 to my ears) but in the band mix they actually sounded quite good, decent cut and not as fizzy or loose as I'd expected