[Heeboja]

I'm buying a lot of guitar equipment this summer and it includes a Schecter Loomis 7 and a new head. I'll get my brothers Behringer for the cab. I've been searching the Net for Bugera 6262 and Valveking. I have tried valveking and liked the sound. Could be more crunch in the middle range. Then i saw a Bugera 6262 (are they copying Peavey or what?) at Thomann.de for the same price. Started looking for it and found some reviews and clips. It sounded much better than the Valveking. The problem is that I've got no chance to test it. And I found some reviews that complain about the reliability. So what do you think? Which one?
Or give me ideas for a better one. It need to be in the same price range.

Genre: Metal but the amp should have a decent clean.

[petereanima]

yes, the bugera 6262 is a copy of the peavey 5150/6505. i could not try it yet, just heard smaples which were not that bad..at least better than the valveking (i heard the valveking live and in the studio of a friend a few times, was always awful).

but what some people told me was that the construction of the bugera is horrible, if you turn a know the whole board moves etc.

i would always take a good solid state amp in that price range over a valveking/bugera/... - because "tube" does not mean "good" in this case.

It sounds like neither of the amps are your ideal, you might need some more searching, I can't help you with suggestions, but I'm sure many people on this site can.

[NegaTiveXero]

The 6262 is actually a copy of the 6505+/5150II.

I hear they have some cheap parts and frequently die. The valvekings are decent, I've been able to get a pretty good sound that I like from the head version. The combo versions are complete shit, though.

[Heeboja]

Ok I'll change the topic to be more suitable. Give me ideas for good amps in that price range. Metal is my genre, but the amp should have a decent clean also.

Edit: Btw what about this one? RANDALL RH-50 T HEAD - Thomann Verkkokauppa

[petereanima]

Originally Posted by NegaTiveXero

The 6262 is actually a copy of the 6505+/5150II.

you are right, my fault.

6260 - 5150/6505
6262 - 5150-II/6505+

Originally Posted by Heeboja

Ok I'll change the topic to be more suitable. Give me ideas for good amps in that price range. Metal is my genre, but the amp should have a decent clean also.

is "used" an option for you?

[Heeboja]

If it's from Europe and from a reliable dude. Preferably shop.

[budda]

I'd get the valveking.

good cleans, good crunch. will do metal! if you boost it with an overdrive pedal, you're really laughin.

I use the 212 whenever i jammed with my roomie this year (he's a drummer, he bought this amp) and it held up fine for our clean stuff and when i felt like trying to outrun him tempo-wise .

they have a little bit of a reliability issue, but i've only heard a handful of cases. VK's aren't half bad. nothing to write home about, but at that price point i wouldnt expect it to be.

I've heard a hardcore band use a VK halfstack and once i told buddy to turn his mids up, it sounded great.

[lambofhowe]

Honestly I'd save up and get something that sounds good! That may sound harsh, but the Bugeras just don't have good durability at all. As for the Valveking...if you like it, get it. I could not for the life of me get even a decent sound out of the one I tried. When you by an amp (new) at a ridiculously low price, you are quite likely to grow out of it fast. There's a reason the Valveking and the 6202 or whatever the hell it's called is so cheap. After 3 months of owning a Madison Divinity I was asking myself WHY didn't I just wait and get something that I would dig for years to come. I had to pawn it on Craigslist so I could buy a Framus Dragon, and now I couldn't be happier with my rig. Why not just save up a LITTLE more and get a used 5150?

[EdgeCrusher]

The Randall RH-50 looks nice, but I believe I remember hearing it was more of a vintage/rock voicing than a metal voice. That was also the problem for me when I had the Valveking 212, I didnt care for the voicing of the amp because it sounded too much like Megadeth as opposed to a modern voiced amp like the 5150.

I'd say the best bang for your buck tube amps are the Peavey Ultra Plus, 5150, and the Ibanez Thermion. The Vox AD100VTH is also a really good budget amp (I got mine for $300 new), though its not all tube.