Recommend me a tube head under 1200 bucks

Emperoff · 04-12-2008, 07:21 PM

The title says it all...

I currently have a 5150 (biased) and I found that I need an amp with a real clean channel on it. I play mainly metal, but I'd want an amp as versatile as possible on the 800-1200 price range. I can't buy anything from the states as usual, because the different voltage and the insanely expensive shipping rates, so I have to stick with Thomann this time

So far I've been looking into this ones, but I'm open to any suggestion:

-Engl Fireball
-Engl Blackmore Signature
-Laney VH100

I tried a Powerball and found It too clinical sounding compared to a 5150 or a Recto (which I can't afford right now), but I've heard the Fireball and especially the Blackmore sound less processed. Since all of them seem tho sound ace for rythms, I want something that sounds cool for leads too. The cleans on both engls will be the same, I suppose. Dunno about the Laney's.

Any advice is welcome!

ibznorange · 04-12-2008, 07:26 PM

if you keep the 6505, just add gain to hell and back for leads, and use a fireball for cleans and crunch

Crucified · 04-12-2008, 08:00 PM

i'd recommend buying something like a fender twin reverb reissue and an a/b/y switcher pedal.

itsallinmyh3ad · 04-12-2008, 09:07 PM

I just bought a Blackmore and I couldn't be happier. I sold my 6505+ to Brewtal_Damage here.

Ryan · 04-12-2008, 09:09 PM

Engl Fireball E625 guitar amp - eBay (item 200215769309 end time Apr-19-08 16:10:53 PDT)

Bound · 04-12-2008, 10:11 PM

Laney VH100r = maximum fucking w1n

AARRGGHHH · 04-12-2008, 10:30 PM

I've spent a good amount of time with a Fireball (other guitarist in a couple of bands has one) and I had a Laney GH50L for a good while (not identical sounding to the VH100r but not far off so I'm told) and I would say you'll get a better rhythm tone from the Fireball, but the Laney would be better leads, plus the VH100r is mega versatile by the looks of it.

Are you planning on keeping the 5150? If so I would go with ibznorange on keeping that for leads and using a Fireball for rhythm and cleans.

I've not had any experience with the Blackmore so I can't really comment there, but I have heard good things about them.

Ideally it'd be best to have a go with them, but I know it can be a bastard finding specific amps that aren't mesas or Marshalls about in most shops.

Mattmc74 · 04-12-2008, 10:32 PM

Have you gave Orange a try?

Bound · 04-12-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AARRGGHHH

I've spent a good amount of time with a Fireball (other guitarist in a couple of bands has one) and I had a Laney GH50L for a good while (not identical sounding to the VH100r but not far off so I'm told) and I would say you'll get a better rhythm tone from the Fireball, but the Laney would be better leads, plus the VH100r is mega versatile by the looks of it.

Are you planning on keeping the 5150? If so I would go with ibznorange on keeping that for leads and using a Fireball for rhythm and cleans.

I've not had any experience with the Blackmore so I can't really comment there, but I have heard good things about them.

Ideally it'd be best to have a go with them, but I know it can be a bastard finding specific amps that aren't mesas or Marshalls about in most shops.

Agreed. One other thing to note about the laney is it's not ULTRA-MEGA-MODERN HI-GAIN like an ENGL will be, but I've not played a Laney whose leads didn't make me want to have sex with a sound.

LordOVchaoS · 04-12-2008, 11:00 PM

Blackmore. Far better than the 6505 or any of the other amps you listed! It's got a 5150 vibe to it but it doesn't suck.

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04-12-2008, 07:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
Emperoff Heavier than hell! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 1,255 Real Name: David Main Seven: Agile Interceptor Pro 25 Rig: BMod > Laney VH100R Thanked: 9	Recommend me a tube head under 1200 bucks The title says it all... I currently have a 5150 (biased) and I found that I need an amp with a real clean channel on it. I play mainly metal, but I'd want an amp as versatile as possible on the 800-1200 price range. I can't buy anything from the states as usual, because the different voltage and the insanely expensive shipping rates, so I have to stick with Thomann this time So far I've been looking into this ones, but I'm open to any suggestion: -Engl Fireball -Engl Blackmore Signature -Laney VH100 I tried a Powerball and found It too clinical sounding compared to a 5150 or a Recto (which I can't afford right now), but I've heard the Fireball and especially the Blackmore sound less processed. Since all of them seem tho sound ace for rythms, I want something that sounds cool for leads too. The cleans on both engls will be the same, I suppose. Dunno about the Laney's. Any advice is welcome!

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itsallinmyh3ad ...Made me do it. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 669 Real Name: Carlos J. Main Seven: ESP Viper 407 Rig: ENGL Blackmore Thanked: 33	I just bought a Blackmore and I couldn't be happier. I sold my 6505+ to Brewtal_Damage here.

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Bound SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Woostah Mass! Posts: 684 Real Name: Mateus Main Seven: Washburn WG-587 Rig: Ashdown FA60H Thanked: 11	Laney VH100r = maximum fucking w1n my mother.... she never loved me. She always says she wishes shes was a raped by someone else ~Borat

04-12-2008, 10:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
AARRGGHHH Fretboard Wizzard Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 99 Real Name: James Main Seven: Schecter C7-Blackjack Rig: Cornford MK50 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I've spent a good amount of time with a Fireball (other guitarist in a couple of bands has one) and I had a Laney GH50L for a good while (not identical sounding to the VH100r but not far off so I'm told) and I would say you'll get a better rhythm tone from the Fireball, but the Laney would be better leads, plus the VH100r is mega versatile by the looks of it. Are you planning on keeping the 5150? If so I would go with ibznorange on keeping that for leads and using a Fireball for rhythm and cleans. I've not had any experience with the Blackmore so I can't really comment there, but I have heard good things about them. Ideally it'd be best to have a go with them, but I know it can be a bastard finding specific amps that aren't mesas or Marshalls about in most shops.

04-12-2008, 10:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mattmc74 Drunk chicks dig me! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: bay city, michigan Posts: 2,549 Real Name: Matt Main Seven: Ibanez RG7421 Rig: Marshall>Randall Cab Thanked: 50	Have you gave Orange a try? Jerry Cantrell is the man! I want a ziploc rain coat. zepp88

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LordOVchaoS NUDE MAN! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrensburg, MO Posts: 3,821 Real Name: Joe Main Seven: Xiphos 7-string+blackouts Rig: Engl SE->Vader Thanked: 51	Blackmore. Far better than the 6505 or any of the other amps you listed! It's got a 5150 vibe to it but it doesn't suck. www.bodenhamer-electronics.com the official gain merchant of sevenstring.org.

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