Orange cabs: where is the magic?

Codyyy · 03-01-2008, 07:54 PM

There seem to be many folks here that stand by Orange cabs. It seems that they have two models, one with V30's, and one with other Celestions. I'm wondering of the magic of Orange cabs extends to the V30 model, or if people just really love the one with the other speakers.

Are there any other reasons for loving the cabs so much?

^Codyyy realizes the answer: DUHHHH THEY'RE ORANGE!!!!

zimbloth · 03-01-2008, 08:10 PM

They're just built really solidly so they help mask a lot of the V30 unpleasantness that most other cabs don't. Since I don't like V30s personally, I'd rather find a cabinet that had speakers I like more such as Black Shadows or VHT P50E's. You could always get any high quality v30 cabinet (Orange, Diezel, ENGL, Mesa, etc) and change the speakers.

Really man, it's going to come down to what head you're using. Certain cabs and speakers match up better with different heads than others. Find out what amp head you're going to run with, and then after that we can talk about the best cabinet to match with that. As much as I love my VHT cabinet, it's not always a good match for non-VHT heads.

PS: We can order Orange cabs in black (or any color) by the way. So if you did decide you wanted an Orange from my place, I could order whichever you wanted.

Codyyy · 03-01-2008, 09:39 PM

Those black Orange cabs are very good looking.

What is the difference between V30's and G12K's?

Kotex · 03-01-2008, 10:52 PM

What do the 30's sound like compared to the Celestions?

Edroz · 03-01-2008, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotex

What do the 30's sound like compared to the Celestions?

V30s (Vintage 30s) are Celestions

Kotex · 03-02-2008, 02:52 AM

Well yeah, I know. I should have specified. What do they sound like compared to the other celestions (the ones Codyyy mentioned).

bulb · 03-02-2008, 04:58 AM

the orange cabs i love are the v30 ones, i have never tried the non v30 ones though

ibznorange · 03-02-2008, 06:09 AM

The G12K100s are way more bottomheavy, but somehow manage to remain ridiculously tight.
theyre not as middy, but still have some good grind. personally, i think thats where its at in terms of speakers for progrock and nu metal. I would imagine theyre decent for most metal in general, but thats really not my forte. I lurves em though, and with how tight they stay through the low end they seem like a natural choice for 7string/ERG players and people who play downtuned at all

loktide · 03-02-2008, 09:48 AM

i think it's partly the ridiculously robust construction of the housing and baffle board. The v30 ENGL cab is also flawlessy made, weigthts the same, also has a fuckton of birch plies, but sound A LOT different. I mean, not even similar.

I guess they use a different baffle-board construction and the whole rear/front mounted speaker thing may also explain the difference to the ENGL cab.

Anyway, what i'm trying to say is that it's apparently not ONLY the ultra-solid construction of the housing, but may also be slight differences in how the baffle board is constructed, which is poorly described by manufacturers

i hope someone who actually understands a bit of acoustics can explain this

HighGain510 · 03-02-2008, 09:59 AM

Mine has the Eminence speakers and it sounds pretty sweet. I think it's just the fact that the cabinet design lends itself towards focused projection.

Very three dimensional sound to it.

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03-01-2008, 10:52 PM	#4
Kotex Trippin' balls Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Yay area Posts: 1,974 Real Name: Sitael Main Seven: Ibanez RG7321 '06/Modded Main ERG: Thinking about it... Rig: Peavey VK/JCM800 Thanked: 22 $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	What do the 30's sound like compared to the Celestions? Too much blood in my alcohol system

03-02-2008, 04:58 AM	#7
bulb His Djentedness, The Bulb Join Date: May 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 1,789 Real Name: Lord Awesomeguy Main Seven: Carvin DC 747/EBMM JP7 Main ERG: TIL custom 8 string Rig: Engl->Gmajor->Orange Thanked: 82	the orange cabs i love are the v30 ones, i have never tried the non v30 ones though Walk with me! www.myspace.com/iambulb www.myspace.com/periphery www.soundclick.com/bulb

03-02-2008, 06:09 AM	#8
ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 7,944 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Dean Vendetta 1.7 Rig: None Thanked: 54	The G12K100s are way more bottomheavy, but somehow manage to remain ridiculously tight. theyre not as middy, but still have some good grind. personally, i think thats where its at in terms of speakers for progrock and nu metal. I would imagine theyre decent for most metal in general, but thats really not my forte. I lurves em though, and with how tight they stay through the low end they seem like a natural choice for 7string/ERG players and people who play downtuned at all Reverse Headstocks or Bust ALL HEIL THE ADMINISHREDDER!

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03-01-2008, 08:10 PM	#2
zimbloth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 11,197 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Main ERG: Ibanez 8 Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 66	They're just built really solidly so they help mask a lot of the V30 unpleasantness that most other cabs don't. Since I don't like V30s personally, I'd rather find a cabinet that had speakers I like more such as Black Shadows or VHT P50E's. You could always get any high quality v30 cabinet (Orange, Diezel, ENGL, Mesa, etc) and change the speakers. Really man, it's going to come down to what head you're using. Certain cabs and speakers match up better with different heads than others. Find out what amp head you're going to run with, and then after that we can talk about the best cabinet to match with that. As much as I love my VHT cabinet, it's not always a good match for non-VHT heads. PS: We can order Orange cabs in black (or any color) by the way. So if you did decide you wanted an Orange from my place, I could order whichever you wanted.

03-01-2008, 09:39 PM	#3
Codyyy The Flip-Flopper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,715 Real Name: Cody Main Seven: Loomis TOM Rig: Carvin V3 - Avatar Thanked: 58 $Codyyy is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Codyyy is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Codyyy is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Codyyy is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Codyyy is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Codyyy is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Codyyy is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	Those black Orange cabs are very good looking. What is the difference between V30's and G12K's?

03-02-2008, 02:52 AM	#6
Kotex Trippin' balls Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Yay area Posts: 1,974 Real Name: Sitael Main Seven: Ibanez RG7321 '06/Modded Main ERG: Thinking about it... Rig: Peavey VK/JCM800 Thanked: 22 $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	Well yeah, I know. I should have specified. What do they sound like compared to the other celestions (the ones Codyyy mentioned).

03-02-2008, 09:48 AM	#9
loktide dot like Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 2,034 Real Name: Christian Main Seven: Ibanez RG7680 Main ERG: RG2228 Rig: Diezel-VH4>Orange412 Thanked: 33	i think it's partly the ridiculously robust construction of the housing and baffle board. The v30 ENGL cab is also flawlessy made, weigthts the same, also has a fuckton of birch plies, but sound A LOT different. I mean, not even similar. I guess they use a different baffle-board construction and the whole rear/front mounted speaker thing may also explain the difference to the ENGL cab. Anyway, what i'm trying to say is that it's apparently not ONLY the ultra-solid construction of the housing, but may also be slight differences in how the baffle board is constructed, which is poorly described by manufacturers i hope someone who actually understands a bit of acoustics can explain this

03-02-2008, 09:59 AM	#10
HighGain510 Cold As Ice Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6,729 Real Name: Matt Main Seven: Carvin 727 Rig: Axe-Fx>DCM150>Bogner Thanked: 92	Mine has the Eminence speakers and it sounds pretty sweet. I think it's just the fact that the cabinet design lends itself towards focused projection. Very three dimensional sound to it.

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