Difference between noise gate and noise supressor?

colors · 02-14-2008, 09:15 AM

what exactly is the difference?
i noticed the noise gate has "threshold" .. i have an mxr smart gate.. and it cuts the volume great but only when it is on "Full" and the threshold has to be all the way up.. otherwise if i hit a note.. much feedback follows.

is it recommended to use the noise gate last in the chain?

right now i have noisegate>delay>od>wah.

Rick · 02-14-2008, 09:16 AM

Personally, I would put the gate last in the chain.

JJ Rodriguez · 02-14-2008, 09:46 AM

My noise gate works great as the first thing in the chain, but then again, I'm just going guitar > noise gate > OD > Norbert.

playstopause · 02-14-2008, 10:35 AM

I would go :

Wah -> OD -> amp + Delay -> Noise gate in the LOOP.

But that's just me.

colors · 02-14-2008, 10:39 AM

ive heard that noise gates don't run well in the fx loop. could be wrong though.

playstopause · 02-14-2008, 10:47 AM

Depends on what noise you want to cut back.
First thing in the chain, it "gates" noise coming from the guitar. In the loop, it's more about amp noise. Works well for me. Some people uses both. Anyway, i'm far from beeing an expert. Someone who knows better could confirm this (or not).

JJ Rodriguez · 02-14-2008, 10:56 AM

Also depends if you have a serial or parallel effects loop. Gating in the loop of my Dragon does dick all, it's still noisy. Gating right after my guitar works great.

Dendroaspis · 02-14-2008, 10:56 AM

I also use a Smart Gate in my loop, after the EQ but before the delay and reverb, as the gate would cut off delays and dampen reverbs to a great degree. Delays, reverbs, etc, always work best in the loop, while any OD's, filters (wah) or any grit is best into the front end.

colors · 02-14-2008, 11:03 AM

i have a serial fx loop.
i should probably try it out. what different kind of noise would it cut back rather than having it last in the chain?

loktide · 02-14-2008, 11:10 AM

i found that my OD is a bit noisy when on, so i put my NS2 after the OD. I also use a noise supressor (g-major) in the loop.

i don't know if there's a difference between noise 'supressor' and a noise 'gate' since both simply dampen all signals weaker than a given treshold AFAIK.

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02-14-2008, 09:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
colors ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Warren Posts: 17 Thanked: 0	Difference between noise gate and noise supressor? what exactly is the difference? i noticed the noise gate has "threshold" .. i have an mxr smart gate.. and it cuts the volume great but only when it is on "Full" and the threshold has to be all the way up.. otherwise if i hit a note.. much feedback follows. is it recommended to use the noise gate last in the chain? right now i have noisegate>delay>od>wah.

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JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 5,753 Main Seven: Ibanez RG7CT Rig: FramusDragon-Norbert Thanked: 37	My noise gate works great as the first thing in the chain, but then again, I'm just going guitar > noise gate > OD > Norbert.

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colors ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Warren Posts: 17 Thanked: 0	ive heard that noise gates don't run well in the fx loop. could be wrong though.

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playstopause President / RHLC © Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 10,975 Real Name: J-F / "Frenchy" Main Seven: Ibanez S7420FMTW Main ERG: What? Rig: Bloody~VHT Pitbull45 Thanked: 42	Depends on what noise you want to cut back. First thing in the chain, it "gates" noise coming from the guitar. In the loop, it's more about amp noise. Works well for me. Some people uses both. Anyway, i'm far from beeing an expert. Someone who knows better could confirm this (or not).

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JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 5,753 Main Seven: Ibanez RG7CT Rig: FramusDragon-Norbert Thanked: 37	Also depends if you have a serial or parallel effects loop. Gating in the loop of my Dragon does dick all, it's still noisy. Gating right after my guitar works great.

02-14-2008, 11:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
colors ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Warren Posts: 17 Thanked: 0	i have a serial fx loop. i should probably try it out. what different kind of noise would it cut back rather than having it last in the chain?

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loktide angry man Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 1,679 Real Name: Christian Main Seven: Ibanez RG7680-LTD1 Rig: Diezel-VH4>Orange412 Thanked: 28	i found that my OD is a bit noisy when on, so i put my NS2 after the OD. I also use a noise supressor (g-major) in the loop. i don't know if there's a difference between noise 'supressor' and a noise 'gate' since both simply dampen all signals weaker than a given treshold AFAIK.

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