sevenstring guitars   sevenstring registry   photo gallery  merch
Sevenstring.org - The Seven String Guitar Authority
home groups support us register
Go Back  
 
User: 
Pass:  
Gear & Equipment - Discussions on Racks, Amps, Cabinets, Tube vs. Solid State debates, effects processors, etc.
Welcome to sevenstring.org! You are currently viewing the site as a guest which gives you limited access to most features.
Most ad placements do not show to registered members. Register Now!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-29-2008, 05:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
Sell me your CST
 
s7eve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Agnes Water, Qld, Australia
Posts: 3,366

Real Name: Firedragon
Main Seven: RG2027X
Rig: ENGL E530

Thanked: 33

s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.
Serious ENGL E530 GAS, I need help.

I am going to buy one but there is a little problem. There is one new in Australia for $1300 + shipping but I'm a cheap bastard and this seems like poor value considering how much they go for in other countries.

Looking at this pic it seems that the Euro version uses the same transformer as the Aussie one, does anyone have any idea what would be involved in setting it up for 240v?


I have a step down transformer for US power but I would prefer the unit to work with 240v does anyone have any idea what would be involved in converting one from the US, I'm thinking you would just swap the transformer and fuses, is this right or are there other differences I'm missing?

Thanks in advance.

View s7eve's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2008, 10:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
0xDEADBEEF
 
Ishan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Paris, France.
Posts: 1,847

Real Name: Yoann
Main Seven: What for?
Main ERG: 30" Intrepid Pro soon :)
Rig: Koch Studiotone+2x12

Thanked: 12

Ishan is a name known to allIshan is a name known to allIshan is a name known to allIshan is a name known to all
It should work directly on 240 with no mods, as Euro units are intended to work between 220 and 240v. (as stated in your pic)

Meshuggah's Drunken Sponge Extraordinaire

About Ozzy and Zakk : "I much rather have the earth swallow them both up, and spit out a confused Randy Rhoads, talking about falling asleep in a plane and waking up in 2007." - Noodles
Become one of us or die, fuckers. - Rick
Bloody Murder #5
View Ishan's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2008, 10:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
Sarcy English Twat
 
7 Dying Trees's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: 7th Ethereal Plane of interstellar hell, Innit Bruv, Safe, London, UK
Posts: 6,479

Real Name: James
Main Seven: UV7PWH / UV7BK / RG2027
Main ERG: 10 fingers of metal death
Rig: Triaxis->TBR5/VHT UL

Thanked: 76

7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.
If you run on 240v, then it should be fine. European units, as said before, are meant to run 240-230v. If you are really worried, hook it up to a power conditioner to stop any spikes, but it should be fine as I have run gear from europe in the UK and vice versa, and that does does voltages.

Basically, if Oz is 240v you'll be fine, as the guy that's selling it doesn't seem to have had any problem eh?

Go for it man!

The Chaos has come:
www.chaosanct.com
View 7 Dying Trees's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2008, 12:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
Far too opinionated
 
ukfswmart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 460

Real Name: Mart
Main Seven: ESP LTD SC-607B w/ Kahler
Rig: Nada :noway:

Thanked: 0

ukfswmart is a glorious beacon of lightukfswmart is a glorious beacon of lightukfswmart is a glorious beacon of light
Well, it's got the CE mark, which means it's certified to be used in the UK. UK also uses 240v so, as everyone else has said, you'll be fine
View ukfswmart's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2008, 12:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
Sell me your CST
 
s7eve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Agnes Water, Qld, Australia
Posts: 3,366

Real Name: Firedragon
Main Seven: RG2027X
Rig: ENGL E530

Thanked: 33

s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.
Sorry my first post is a little confusing. I have three options.

1. Buy an Aussie unit, it's brand new, will work fine but is expensive.

2. Buy a Euro/UK unit, it's cheaper at $800- $1000, the general consensus seems to be it will work on 240v.

3. Buy a US unit, cheapest option at less than half the price of the Aussie unit but needs to be converted to 240v and I'm not sure how involved that would be.

So I had 2 questions, the first seems to be answered but that wired for 230v sticker still gives me doubts.

The second question is what is involved in converting a US unit to 240v?

This is the more important question to me as like I said it is less than half the price and it would mean that I could buy more US gear and convert it in future.
View s7eve's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2008, 12:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
Sell me your CST
 
s7eve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Agnes Water, Qld, Australia
Posts: 3,366

Real Name: Firedragon
Main Seven: RG2027X
Rig: ENGL E530

Thanked: 33

s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ukfswmart View Post
Well, it's got the CE mark, which means it's certified to be used in the UK. UK also uses 240v so, as everyone else has said, you'll be fine
Thanks, I did not know about CE or UK using 240v so that's good to know.
Now I just need to find out about converting a US unit.
View s7eve's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2008, 12:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
Sarcy English Twat
 
7 Dying Trees's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: 7th Ethereal Plane of interstellar hell, Innit Bruv, Safe, London, UK
Posts: 6,479

Real Name: James
Main Seven: UV7PWH / UV7BK / RG2027
Main ERG: 10 fingers of metal death
Rig: Triaxis->TBR5/VHT UL

Thanked: 76

7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.
Option 3:

Man, just don't, US units save you money, sure, but, the conversion costs quite a bit, you'll need to find the correct transformer or one that will work, you'll have to pay a tech labour costs and if it goes wrong, ENGL won't touch it as you'll have voided any warranty. I had my triaxis converted, and it wasn't cheap.

If anything I'd STRONGLY advise option 2. The voltage will be fine, and it's cheaper than buying new. My friend emigrated to australia with all his rack gear, and hasn't had a problem with any of it
View 7 Dying Trees's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2008, 12:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
Far too opinionated
 
ukfswmart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 460

Real Name: Mart
Main Seven: ESP LTD SC-607B w/ Kahler
Rig: Nada :noway:

Thanked: 0

ukfswmart is a glorious beacon of lightukfswmart is a glorious beacon of lightukfswmart is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by s7eve View Post
Sorry my first post is a little confusing. I have three options.

1. Buy an Aussie unit, it's brand new, will work fine but is expensive.

2. Buy a Euro/UK unit, it's cheaper at $800- $1000, the general consensus seems to be it will work on 240v.

3. Buy a US unit, cheapest option at less than half the price of the Aussie unit but needs to be converted to 240v and I'm not sure how involved that would be.

So I had 2 questions, the first seems to be answered but that wired for 230v sticker still gives me doubts.

The second question is what is involved in converting a US unit to 240v?

This is the more important question to me as like I said it is less than half the price and it would mean that I could buy more US gear and convert it in future.
Seriously man, running Euro gear at 240v is not a problem; as James said, if you're worried about spikes, run it off power conditioner to keep the voltage nice and smooth

US voltage runs between 110v and 120v; fixing a US unit to run at 220-240v involves replacing the power transformer. This would likely involve buying a 240v transformer from Engl, which I doubt they'd supply unless you were a dealer or authorised repair wizard. I don't see the value of doing this to be honest, considering that a Euro unit will be absolutely fine at 240v
View ukfswmart's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2008, 12:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
Sarcy English Twat
 
7 Dying Trees's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: 7th Ethereal Plane of interstellar hell, Innit Bruv, Safe, London, UK
Posts: 6,479

Real Name: James
Main Seven: UV7PWH / UV7BK / RG2027
Main ERG: 10 fingers of metal death
Rig: Triaxis->TBR5/VHT UL

Thanked: 76

7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.7 Dying Trees harnesses the souls of 1,000 dead viking lords.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ukfswmart View Post
Seriously man, running Euro gear at 240v is not a problem; as James said, if you're worried about spikes, run it off power conditioner to keep the voltage nice and smooth

US voltage runs between 110v and 120v; fixing a US unit to run at 220-240v involves replacing the power transformer. This would likely involve buying a 240v transformer from Engl, which I doubt they'd supply unless you were a dealer or authorised repair wizard. I don't see the value of doing this to be honest, considering that a Euro unit will be absolutely fine at 240v
All what is said is gospel. You'll have more hassle getting the right transformer and getting it installed than it's worth. Euro gear will be perfectly fine and save you the headache of trying to sort all that shit out, plus the heartache if it goes wrong and the modification accidentally goes wrong and takes out the electronics inside, as I seriously doubt ENGL will sell you the transformer easily.

Buy a unit that runs at the voltage you'll be using, and get the european one.
View 7 Dying Trees's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2008, 01:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
Sell me your CST
 
s7eve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Agnes Water, Qld, Australia
Posts: 3,366

Real Name: Firedragon
Main Seven: RG2027X
Rig: ENGL E530

Thanked: 33

s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.s7eve is pretty much the man.
Thanks guys, I think I will go that way and just keep a look out for a Euro/UK one that will ship to Australia.

Then all I will need will be an orange cab and an acoustic preamp, something like a DTAR Mama bear and line6 can go to hell.
View s7eve's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
engl, engl e530

Thread Tools
Display Modes



The Seven String Guitar Authority
 Raleigh Music Academy Soloway Guitars Angel Vivaldi
 Eric Clemenzi Ra Fans Vince LuPone
 The Guitar Workshop Tremol-No Division
 Michael Sherman Guitars Out of this Swirled Drew Peterson
Powered by vBulletin 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
"777" Logo © Darren Wilson
Content © 2008 Sevenstring.org LLC - Privacy Policy
Affiliate Links Directory


  One of the largest message boards on the web !

RSS  Add to My Yahoo!  Add to iGoogle