Messin with solid state

tonyhell · 01-21-2008, 01:37 PM

I've got a nice tube rig, but I'm thinking about experimenting with some solid state stuff for death metal. A lot of my favorite death metal stuff was recorded using solid state stuff from Crate and Ampeg. I haven't compared it directly but just from memory, I like the guitar tone on The Bleeding better than Kill, for example.

So, I'm thinking about getting a Crate Powerblock and a GT8 and an Uber Metal pedal and seeing what it sounds like through my buddy's Vader. The one thing I hate about solid state amps is that high end static that seems to cause instant tinnitus. But I'm thinking the Vader might help rectify that problem.

What do you all think? By the way, my other guitarist has a dual rectifier so it could be a lost cause.

Apophis · 01-21-2008, 01:48 PM

Try it

TheMissing · 01-21-2008, 01:50 PM

Put a sonic maximizer in the effects loop (or out front) and it'll slay.

tonyhell · 01-21-2008, 02:07 PM

I never NOT use a BBE!

Crucified · 01-21-2008, 03:19 PM

do yourself a favor and lose the uber metal. worst pile of garbage since the metal zone.
If you're thinking of going solid state, try rocktron. the prophesy is an amasing piece of work for being mostly solid state, it has one 12ax7 in it. its nice, chameleons are decent as well and cheap!

Leon · 01-21-2008, 03:29 PM

the GT8 will have enough distortion models that you probably won't need any other type of distortion pedal. and, if even you don't like the loud sounds of the GT8, you can use it with headphones to great success.

budda · 01-21-2008, 04:08 PM

get whatever marshall SS amp it is that was used a bit in the 90's for metal albums, dont bother with pedals etc.

and then go back to your tube rig and compare.

tonyhell · 01-21-2008, 04:14 PM

I've actually had a couple of Rocktron preamps and didn't care for them. I hated the Chameleon even after trying settings posted by others. I've never tried the Prophesy though. Thanks for the tip on the Uber Metal.

Yeah, with the GT8, at least I can use it for effects with my rig and recording if I want.

WarriorOfMetal · 01-21-2008, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budda

get whatever marshall SS amp it is that was used a bit in the 90's for metal albums, dont bother with pedals etc.

and then go back to your tube rig and compare.

you're probably talking about the Valvestate VS8100
also the other good SS amps (for metal at least) are the Ampeg VH and SS series, Crate GX130C and VTX series, and most of the Randall stuff. the Ampegs and Crates I mentioned have very similar preamps. also, the Ampeg VH series stuff sounds RIDICULOUS for death metal (in a good way) through a Vader 4x12. they also take well to running a Tube Screamer in front as a clean boost, with the amp's gain turned down a bit (although, the VH can do metal without a boost with the gain at 10 o'clock

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budda · 01-21-2008, 06:28 PM

yeah thats the marshall i was thinking of.

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01-21-2008, 01:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
tonyhell Obama Nation in '08! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Vienna, OH Posts: 321 Real Name: Tony Main Seven: KxKV7 Metalcore Mutilator Rig: G-Max>BBE>Vader Thanked: 2	Messin with solid state I've got a nice tube rig, but I'm thinking about experimenting with some solid state stuff for death metal. A lot of my favorite death metal stuff was recorded using solid state stuff from Crate and Ampeg. I haven't compared it directly but just from memory, I like the guitar tone on The Bleeding better than Kill, for example. So, I'm thinking about getting a Crate Powerblock and a GT8 and an Uber Metal pedal and seeing what it sounds like through my buddy's Vader. The one thing I hate about solid state amps is that high end static that seems to cause instant tinnitus. But I'm thinking the Vader might help rectify that problem. What do you all think? By the way, my other guitarist has a dual rectifier so it could be a lost cause. my t-shirts https://dastardlytees.com/images/logo2.gif coupon code (-$5): ssorg

01-21-2008, 01:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
TheMissing Sugar Bush Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Jersey Posts: 4,649 Real Name: Chris Main Seven: Schecter Gryphon7 (W/BKP) Rig: 5150 II-Swamp Thangs Thanked: 137	Put a sonic maximizer in the effects loop (or out front) and it'll slay. In any language that you learn to speak -- love is twisted and defined as weak TheMissing's GAScon status: GAScon 4... I'm doing pretty good at the moment.

01-21-2008, 03:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Leon {##[====:::. • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Ohio Crew Posts: 12,318 Main Seven: RG7620 of Doom Rig: Mesa / Sovtek Thanked: 77	the GT8 will have enough distortion models that you probably won't need any other type of distortion pedal. and, if even you don't like the loud sounds of the GT8, you can use it with headphones to great success. I have a radical idea. The door swings both ways, we could reverse the particle flow through the gate. We'll cross the streams.

01-21-2008, 04:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
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01-21-2008, 01:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Apophis ROTER CUSTOM GUITARS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 8,243 Real Name: Sebastian Main Seven: I need more strings :) Main ERG: RCG 9 & 10 string Rig: Line6 Thanked: 49	Try it

01-21-2008, 02:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
tonyhell Obama Nation in '08! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Vienna, OH Posts: 321 Real Name: Tony Main Seven: KxKV7 Metalcore Mutilator Rig: G-Max>BBE>Vader Thanked: 2	I never NOT use a BBE!

01-21-2008, 03:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Crucified Deathgrind Maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 1,249 Real Name: Kevin Main Seven: rg2027xvv Main ERG: Custom Sherman 8. Rig: Herbert/Uberschall Thanked: 44 $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Crucified is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	do yourself a favor and lose the uber metal. worst pile of garbage since the metal zone. If you're thinking of going solid state, try rocktron. the prophesy is an amasing piece of work for being mostly solid state, it has one 12ax7 in it. its nice, chameleons are decent as well and cheap!

01-21-2008, 04:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
tonyhell Obama Nation in '08! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Vienna, OH Posts: 321 Real Name: Tony Main Seven: KxKV7 Metalcore Mutilator Rig: G-Max>BBE>Vader Thanked: 2	I've actually had a couple of Rocktron preamps and didn't care for them. I hated the Chameleon even after trying settings posted by others. I've never tried the Prophesy though. Thanks for the tip on the Uber Metal. Yeah, with the GT8, at least I can use it for effects with my rig and recording if I want.

01-21-2008, 06:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
budda Guiterrorizer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Deep River ONT (summer), London ONT (school) Posts: 6,513 Real Name: Justin Main Seven: Carvin DC727 OFR Rig: JSX->XXX w/ WGS CL80 Thanked: 39 $budda is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $budda is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $budda is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $budda is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $budda is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $budda is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $budda is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	yeah thats the marshall i was thinking of.

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