Power Tube Distortion = Good

Zepp88 · 01-15-2008, 11:03 PM

So, I was messing around with my Dual Rectifier yesterday and discovered this.

Put the Master Volume at about 12 o'clock and use the Channel Volume for loudness control and you'll be in heaven.

It hits the speakers so much harder and is more agressive.

Now that my rig is home I have more time to just fiddle with shit

Edroz · 01-15-2008, 11:11 PM

there's just a neverending array of different subtle sounds to be had with a good tube amp at different settings and volumes.

i believe you can get some convincing tube like tones from digital modelers, but they just don't have the same responsiveness and feel of a tube amp. that's why i always go back.

noodles · 01-15-2008, 11:11 PM

Yep. I'd do this if it balanced with the clean channel. That is pretty much the reason most people don't do this.

sakeido · 01-15-2008, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodles

Yep. I'd do this if it balanced with the clean channel. That is pretty much the reason most people don't do this.

Stilettos don't have this problem

I wonder if Mesa is going to introduce a revised Recto with the Stiletto's awesome volume knob (not the knob itself but you know what I mean... curve?) this year.

ibznorange · 01-15-2008, 11:20 PM

taper, i believe is the technical term. but who cares lol
youre spot on mike. shit, marshalls only sound good with the power tubes running hot

budda · 01-15-2008, 11:23 PM

you figured this out now? damn.

i figured it out as soon as i ran the volume low and the master on 8 on my YCV80 lol.

i enjoy balancing channel volumes really low and then putting the master on 8. its great fun. then gradually bring up the volumes until the drummer can actually hear me and away i go!

Note: sorry if i sound like a prick right now, in a bit of a weird mood. pre and power section drive=teh sechs

Zepp88 · 01-16-2008, 12:00 AM

In our practice space I never had the chance to REALLY tweak my amp and try different things.

Now that I've quit, and my rigs home I can fool around a bit.

ibznorange · 01-16-2008, 02:13 AM

quitting bands of meh quality or less FTW
and tweakin shit.
thats kinda cool too

Zepp88 · 01-16-2008, 02:17 AM

I wonder if you can mod an amps volume taper without destroying tone?

ibznorange · 01-16-2008, 02:23 AM

should be able to just fine, as long as the maximum value of the pot is the same

technically, youd hit all the same values, just at different points in the rotation of the knob.

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01-15-2008, 11:11 PM	#2
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01-15-2008, 11:20 PM	#5
ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 7,950 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Dean Vendetta 1.7 Rig: None Thanked: 54	taper, i believe is the technical term. but who cares lol youre spot on mike. shit, marshalls only sound good with the power tubes running hot Reverse Headstocks or Bust ALL HEIL THE ADMINISHREDDER!

01-15-2008, 11:23 PM	#6
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01-16-2008, 12:00 AM	#7
Zepp88 Resident ADA whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: A Technological Deadzone Posts: 8,612 Real Name: Mike Main Seven: Schecter C7 Blackjack Main ERG: I haven't felt the need.. Rig: MP-1>50/50>Vader Thanked: 63	In our practice space I never had the chance to REALLY tweak my amp and try different things. Now that I've quit, and my rigs home I can fool around a bit.

01-16-2008, 02:13 AM	#8
ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 7,950 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Dean Vendetta 1.7 Rig: None Thanked: 54	quitting bands of meh quality or less FTW and tweakin shit. thats kinda cool too

01-16-2008, 02:17 AM	#9
Zepp88 Resident ADA whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: A Technological Deadzone Posts: 8,612 Real Name: Mike Main Seven: Schecter C7 Blackjack Main ERG: I haven't felt the need.. Rig: MP-1>50/50>Vader Thanked: 63	I wonder if you can mod an amps volume taper without destroying tone?

01-16-2008, 02:23 AM	#10
ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 7,950 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Dean Vendetta 1.7 Rig: None Thanked: 54	should be able to just fine, as long as the maximum value of the pot is the same technically, youd hit all the same values, just at different points in the rotation of the knob.

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