Think I may have been scamed on the bay...

TheMissing · 02-16-2008, 12:12 PM

I'd still like to know the official story behind what happened with the seller. Either he was really lazy and stupid, or just a really bad scammer.

Michael · 02-16-2008, 12:25 PM

Glad you got the amp after all!

I looks fuckin' evil.

FoxZero · 02-16-2008, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMissing

I'd still like to know the official story behind what happened with the seller. Either he was really lazy and stupid, or just a really bad scammer.

Me too. Honestly I think he was just being really stupid. I would have loved to have seen the look on his face when the cop called him. He still gets his negative feedback, it's the only punishment I can give him really.

Oh yeah. His real name is Kevin Brooks. His ebay account is forgetthiscity805. He lives in Oxnard, CA.His phone number is (805) 616-7197.

Pewtershmit · 02-16-2008, 05:03 PM

Hey guys,

I've been a lurker for a while, I post regularly on Mx as Zed_Leppelin. I was just browsing and found this thread, thought I'd post some thoughts.

First off, I'm a Fraud specialist at eBay, and I deal with these situations all day long. While I'd like to say most of the fraudsters get taken off the site proactively, BEFORE they rip someone off. Unfortunatley, some of them slip through.

Being the one that sends "Sorry we can't help you emails" from ebay, at first I was like Wow we really can't do anything? but after a year now of working in fraud, its somewhat understandable, most of these fraudsters sign up with false information, and proxy ip's so its gonna be hard to find them off the interweb.

when buying, the most important things to take into consideration.

recent feedback for selling: MOST fraudsters will either be brand new accounts, with no selling feedback, always look at what kind of items theyve sold in the past, if your buying an amp, your looking for music related things. Also be aware of account takeovers, which are usually older accounts, with no recent feedback history. mind you those are less common and usually get taken care of pretty fast.

Paypal is the safest way to go, but theyre not as safe as you think. Be aware on the right side of auctions theyre will be a paypal buyer protection dealy on the side. this is how much your covered, paypal covers up to 2000 most of the time, but only if the seller has over 50 fb. If not its 200. Just something to consider. Never send a check or money transfer, if western union ever comes up, back out immediately, 99% of the time its a scam.

Stock photos are always suspicious, if they have a stock photo or no photo, definately don't bid until you request some pictures of it, and if he hasnt taken some pictures, ask him to include a peice of paper with his username in the picture.

The best thing I can suggest, if you think something is too good to be true, is at the bottom of the listing, look for a report this item link. Click on the link and itll take you to a contact page.

Go to Fraudulent listings ---> You suspect a listing is fraudulent and you did not bid.

This basically sends the user into my tool were, I, for example, would go over EVERYTHING associated with this guy. And basically decide if he poses a risk to the community, we usually view the case within six hours. Our accuracy is around 95%, which is really good.

I can't really go into detail with what we do as its super secretive, but just know that I'm looking out for ya, I mostly specialize in the music part of the site, as thats what I know the best.

FoxZero · 02-16-2008, 05:07 PM

Interesting, thanks man.

BTW can you delete forgetthiscity805 for me?

Pewtershmit · 02-16-2008, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxZero

Interesting, thanks man.

BTW can you delete forgetthiscity805 for me?

lol I'll load him up when I go to work on sunday

FoxZero · 02-16-2008, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pewtershmit

lol I'll load him up when I go to work on sunday

Killer bro! Thanks!

erep for you sir.

Pewtershmit · 02-16-2008, 05:19 PM

oh and another thing, I noticed you mentioned that his phone was disconnected, you can report that to ebay and they'll make him add a proper number so he doesnt mess with anyone again without a number they can get him at. And ebay will call him to test the new number as well. Just a thought

Jagw · 02-16-2008, 06:10 PM

Only just read through this whole 11 pages, and i'm so glad it worked out for you in the end dude! In celebration, crank that bitch LOUD and send him a soundclip of you playing on it.

Mastodon · 02-16-2008, 08:07 PM

That is one ballin' ass avatar you've got there Pewtershmit.

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02-16-2008, 12:25 PM	#102 (permalink)
Michael No More Mr. Nice Guy Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia Posts: 8,539 Real Name: Michael Main Seven: '97 UV7BK Rig: ADA MP1 > Mesa 50/50 Thanked: 49	Glad you got the amp after all! I looks fuckin' evil.

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Pewtershmit ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: vancouver (delta), BC Posts: 104 Real Name: Danny Main Seven: RG7620!! Rig: Carvin Legacy Thanked: 10 / 1	Hey guys, I've been a lurker for a while, I post regularly on Mx as Zed_Leppelin. I was just browsing and found this thread, thought I'd post some thoughts. First off, I'm a Fraud specialist at eBay, and I deal with these situations all day long. While I'd like to say most of the fraudsters get taken off the site proactively, BEFORE they rip someone off. Unfortunatley, some of them slip through. Being the one that sends "Sorry we can't help you emails" from ebay, at first I was like Wow we really can't do anything? but after a year now of working in fraud, its somewhat understandable, most of these fraudsters sign up with false information, and proxy ip's so its gonna be hard to find them off the interweb. when buying, the most important things to take into consideration. recent feedback for selling: MOST fraudsters will either be brand new accounts, with no selling feedback, always look at what kind of items theyve sold in the past, if your buying an amp, your looking for music related things. Also be aware of account takeovers, which are usually older accounts, with no recent feedback history. mind you those are less common and usually get taken care of pretty fast. Paypal is the safest way to go, but theyre not as safe as you think. Be aware on the right side of auctions theyre will be a paypal buyer protection dealy on the side. this is how much your covered, paypal covers up to 2000 most of the time, but only if the seller has over 50 fb. If not its 200. Just something to consider. Never send a check or money transfer, if western union ever comes up, back out immediately, 99% of the time its a scam. Stock photos are always suspicious, if they have a stock photo or no photo, definately don't bid until you request some pictures of it, and if he hasnt taken some pictures, ask him to include a peice of paper with his username in the picture. The best thing I can suggest, if you think something is too good to be true, is at the bottom of the listing, look for a report this item link. Click on the link and itll take you to a contact page. Go to Fraudulent listings ---> You suspect a listing is fraudulent and you did not bid. This basically sends the user into my tool were, I, for example, would go over EVERYTHING associated with this guy. And basically decide if he poses a risk to the community, we usually view the case within six hours. Our accuracy is around 95%, which is really good. I can't really go into detail with what we do as its super secretive, but just know that I'm looking out for ya, I mostly specialize in the music part of the site, as thats what I know the best.

02-16-2008, 05:07 PM	#105 (permalink)
FoxZero Zero Imperfections Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: West Chester, PA Posts: 793 Main Seven: USA BC Rich Warlock w/M7 Rig: Cobra/Vader 2x15 Thanked: 7	Interesting, thanks man. BTW can you delete forgetthiscity805 for me?

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Pewtershmit ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: vancouver (delta), BC Posts: 104 Real Name: Danny Main Seven: RG7620!! Rig: Carvin Legacy Thanked: 10 / 1	oh and another thing, I noticed you mentioned that his phone was disconnected, you can report that to ebay and they'll make him add a proper number so he doesnt mess with anyone again without a number they can get him at. And ebay will call him to test the new number as well. Just a thought

02-16-2008, 06:10 PM	#109 (permalink)
Jagw ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England. Posts: 153 Real Name: Jamie Main Seven: LTD Viper 407 Rig: Framus Cobra -> 4x12 Thanked: 5	Only just read through this whole 11 pages, and i'm so glad it worked out for you in the end dude! In celebration, crank that bitch LOUD and send him a soundclip of you playing on it.

02-16-2008, 08:07 PM	#110 (permalink)
Mastodon Songs about My Cats Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bizurke Posts: 6,649 Main Seven: 2004 Ibanez RG7321 Thanked: 42	That is one ballin' ass avatar you've got there Pewtershmit.


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