Mesa Boogie .50 Caliber +

arnoroth661 · 12-19-2007, 06:56 PM

The oppurtunity has arisen for me to purchase one used for $799.99. Comments, advice, experience?

On a side

- Braces f**king SUCK!

Leon · 12-19-2007, 07:07 PM

$799.99... sounds like it's from a music store. is it a head or combo? does it have EL84's or 6L6's?

have you tried it out?

Nats · 12-19-2007, 07:37 PM

that seems kinda high. then again i got mine for free so what do i know

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

$799.99... sounds like it's from a music store. is it a head or combo? does it have EL84's or 6L6's?

have you tried it out?

the 'plus' has 6l6's stock

arnoroth661 · 12-19-2007, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

$799.99... sounds like it's from a music store. is it a head or combo? does it have EL84's or 6L6's?

have you tried it out?

1x12 combo with 6L6's

And yes, that's why I'm considering it.

nyck · 12-19-2007, 09:06 PM

They're cool amps, but you have to know how to dial them in. You basically need to use the V shape on the EQ, and keep the treble knob kind of high(gives you more gain) and the bass knob low(higher will muddy it up). The higher the EQ knobs, the more gain you can get out of the amp, I've found. Make sure not to use too much gain though, because there is a lot of gain on tap...
Make sure and ask to hook it up to a 4x12, I think you'll be blown away

D

arnoroth661 · 12-19-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyck

They're cool amps, but you have to know how to dial them in. You basically need to use the V shape on the EQ, and keep the treble knob kind of high(gives you more gain) and the bass knob low(higher will muddy it up). The higher the EQ knobs, the more gain you can get out of the amp, I've found. Make sure not to use too much gain though, because there is a lot of gain on tap...
Make sure and ask to hook it up to a 4x12, I think you'll be blown away

D

What do you think would be a good deal, price wise? It is used... I don't recall any cosmetic flaws/damage... I have no idea how used the tubes are. A retube isn't a big problem.

Thanks for all the replies!

Nats · 12-19-2007, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyck

They're cool amps, but you have to know how to dial them in. You basically need to use the V shape on the EQ, and keep the treble knob kind of high(gives you more gain) and the bass knob low(higher will muddy it up). The higher the EQ knobs, the more gain you can get out of the amp, I've found. Make sure not to use too much gain though, because there is a lot of gain on tap...
Make sure and ask to hook it up to a 4x12, I think you'll be blown away

D

werd. i keep the gain on 4 and use a LoVC TS7 as a clean boost and it's crazy gainy. i like keeping the eq sliders the same way i saw Petrucci used on his old amp

zimbloth · 12-19-2007, 09:15 PM

$799 is a HIDEOUS price for one of these. Great amps, but you can find them routinely in the $500 range.

arnoroth661 · 12-19-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by zimbloth

$799 is a HIDEOUS price for one of these. Great amps, but you can find them routinely in the $500 range.

I know... I had a look at eBay and saw them at $450, $500. But I have a good reason to buy from guitar center... Any guesses?

zimbloth · 12-19-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by arnoroth661

I know... I had a look at eBay and saw them at $450, $500. But I have a good reason to buy from guitar center... Any guesses?

There's never a good reason to do that, unless you have access to an employee discount.

arnoroth661 · 12-19-2007, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by zimbloth

There's never a good reason to do that, unless you have access to an employee discount.

Set up the GC credit card and get a good credit rating started? (I'm 17

)

zimbloth · 12-19-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by arnoroth661

Set up the GC credit card and get a good credit rating started? (I'm 17

)

Or you could not overpay by $300 and get good credit started another way?

arnoroth661 · 12-19-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zimbloth

Or you could not overpay by $300 and get good credit started another way?

I think I'm going to try and stick it to him.

"Listen dude, I could buy this off Ebay for 500. You're selling it for 700... I'm sure there's a way you can sell it for lower."

Then maybe after some

and

...

Nats · 12-19-2007, 09:28 PM

there's one on ebay buy it now for 600. still kinda high for just the head, but cheaper than 800

arnoroth661 · 12-19-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nats

there's one on ebay buy it now for 600. still kinda high for just the head, but cheaper than 800

Oh I did say 800 didnt I... Well yea.

Imma' talk to em tomorrow about it. Sum mumma b**ch.

budda · 12-19-2007, 09:34 PM

tis the way the world works. new dual rec: $2K. used dual rec? $1400. weeee!

arnoroth661 · 12-19-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by budda

tis the way the world works. new dual rec: $2K. used dual rec? $1400. weeee!

Same guy.... trying to sell a used Mark IV for 1600

Jeff · 12-20-2007, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arnoroth661

Oh I did say 800 didnt I... Well yea.

Imma' talk to em tomorrow about it. Sum mumma b**ch.

Dude, I'd say $600 or you're walking. GC has plenty of wiggle room on used shit.

arnoroth661 · 12-20-2007, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

Dude, I'd say $600 or you're walking. GC has plenty of wiggle room on used shit.

I'll see when I can get over there next...

Leon · 12-20-2007, 09:23 AM

cash is the answer. walk in there with $500 cash and tell them you want that amp.

Groff · 12-20-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

cash is the answer. walk in there with $500 cash and tell them you want that amp.

Not really. When I worked at GC people would come in all the time and want discounts for paying cash. Here's a tip, GC employees get the same ammount of commision no matter HOW you pay for it. It doesn't make a shit of difference if you pay cash or credit.

If you really want a lower price on something... Just bug the shit out of them (Keep in mind not everything can be lowered in price, not even by a manager). That always worked on me

Before they got PC's to do price checks... I would photoshop lower prices from competitors and print them out and bring them in to the ones I knew were gullible. heh... Saved plenty of money that way.

Drew · 12-20-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by arnoroth661

Set up the GC credit card and get a good credit rating started? (I'm 17

)

Bad idea. You're overpaying $300 right off the bat, you almost never find a "store" credit card with an interest rate below 20% so you'll get raped on interest payments (another $160 over the first year, if you don't pay it off immediately...

...and with no credit history and if you're young enough to still be wearing braces, odds are they won't even approve you, especially if you don't have another credit card.

If you want to build a credit history, start with either your bank and see if they'll issue you a card, or Capital One, who seemingly only requires a pulse to issue a line of credit. Then, just buy one CD every month or something on the card and pay it off that statement. Do that for a year or so and you'll begin to have something that a "real" card company might consider credit history.

Jeff · 12-20-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew

Bad idea. You're overpaying $300 right off the bat, you almost never find a "store" credit card with an interest rate below 20% so you'll get raped on interest payments (another $160 over the first year, if you don't pay it off immediately...

...and with no credit history and if you're young enough to still be wearing braces, odds are they won't even approve you, especially if you don't have another credit card.

If you want to build a credit history, start with either your bank and see if they'll issue you a card, or Capital One, who seemingly only requires a pulse to issue a line of credit. Then, just buy one CD every month or something on the card and pay it off that statement. Do that for a year or so and you'll begin to have something that a "real" card company might consider credit history.

Excellent advice. Store credit cards are really only good for whenever they have their wacky 0% for life deals (okay I exaggerate). Other than that, bend over, and forget the lube....you won't be needing it.

Leon · 12-20-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMissing

Not really. When I worked at GC people would come in all the time and want discounts for paying cash. Here's a tip, GC employees get the same ammount of commision no matter HOW you pay for it. It doesn't make a shit of difference if you pay cash or credit.

that's true. i suppose my advice wasn't too useful, since i've never tried it at a GC. it's worked about 90% of the time at little local shops that i've been to.

Leon · 12-20-2007, 08:17 PM

...and yeah, braces DO suck

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arnoroth661 Tremol-no User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,057 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Mesa Boogie .50 Caliber + The oppurtunity has arisen for me to purchase one used for $799.99. Comments, advice, experience? On a side - Braces fking SUCK! What a Djentleman!**

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12-19-2007, 07:07 PM	#2
Leon {##[====:::. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,586 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	$799.99... sounds like it's from a music store. is it a head or combo? does it have EL84's or 6L6's? have you tried it out?

12-19-2007, 09:06 PM	#5
nyck blah! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,977 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	They're cool amps, but you have to know how to dial them in. You basically need to use the V shape on the EQ, and keep the treble knob kind of high(gives you more gain) and the bass knob low(higher will muddy it up). The higher the EQ knobs, the more gain you can get out of the amp, I've found. Make sure not to use too much gain though, because there is a lot of gain on tap... Make sure and ask to hook it up to a 4x12, I think you'll be blown away D

12-19-2007, 09:15 PM	#8
zimbloth Nick // Axe Palace Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 16,664 Thanked: 179 Feedback Score: 47 reviews	$799 is a HIDEOUS price for one of these. Great amps, but you can find them routinely in the $500 range.

12-20-2007, 09:23 AM	#20
Leon {##[====:::. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,586 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	cash is the answer. walk in there with $500 cash and tell them you want that amp.

12-20-2007, 08:17 PM	#25
Leon {##[====:::. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,586 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	...and yeah, braces DO suck