Is 50 watts really enough?

7 Strings of Hate · 12-15-2007, 01:45 AM

Hey guys, i am back an forth, i think i am going to go with a 5150 , but there are so many great heads for about the same price or a little more that are 50 watters, but is that really loud enough? the drummer i play with beats the shit out of his drums and my bassist has loud shit, and the singer is loud as fuck too. i could get a fancier sounding 50 watter, but i'm afraid its not loud enough. the 5150 is crushing, probably the same or a little cheaper(than a vht, mesa, engl...) and its 100 watts, whats a guy to do??

Edroz · 12-15-2007, 01:49 AM

5150 is 120 watts to be exact

. to answer your question, 50 tube watts is plenty loud to keep up in a band situation.

budda · 12-15-2007, 02:01 AM

25W is loud enough as well.. a 50W will be plenty.

ibznorange · 12-15-2007, 02:05 AM

yes. it is significantly loud enough

Lankles · 12-15-2007, 04:04 AM

Unless your drummer is PUNISHINGLY loud then definitely yes.

God Hand Apostle · 12-15-2007, 04:06 AM

I had a 50 watt Mesa Single Recto that was fucking LOUD!!!

Yngwie plays 50 watt heads, and he's obnoxiously loud.

TomAwesome · 12-15-2007, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God Hand Apostle

Yngwie plays 50 watt heads, and he's obnoxiously loud.

Yes, but his amps only account for a small percentage of that.

God Hand Apostle · 12-15-2007, 04:13 AM

HA! Totally.

Lots of gold jewelry embedded in your sweaty chest hair past the pirate foofoo shirt increases loudness as well.

Desecrated · 12-15-2007, 05:38 AM

IRCC Yngwie uses 2 serial connected amps.

But Fredrik Thordendal had the f-series 50 watt mesa boogie for a while and that seamed to work, haake is a pretty loud drummer.

dpm · 12-15-2007, 05:52 AM

50w is plenty loud, that shouldn't be an issue. What you do run into quicker on a 50w amp is power stage distortion. You'll find 100w stays a little tighter for the same given volume level, which can be beneficial if you're playing low tuned metal. Transformer design, tube types, circuit design, and biasing are big things here too. A well executed 50w amp will decimate a poorly executed 100w amp.

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12-15-2007, 01:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
7 Strings of Hate Dont taze me bro! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St.Louis USA Posts: 2,895 Real Name: Chris Main Seven: Ibanez S7320 EMG Loaded Rig: Mesa Rectoverb Head Thanked: 33	Is 50 watts really enough? Hey guys, i am back an forth, i think i am going to go with a 5150 , but there are so many great heads for about the same price or a little more that are 50 watters, but is that really loud enough? the drummer i play with beats the shit out of his drums and my bassist has loud shit, and the singer is loud as fuck too. i could get a fancier sounding 50 watter, but i'm afraid its not loud enough. the 5150 is crushing, probably the same or a little cheaper(than a vht, mesa, engl...) and its 100 watts, whats a guy to do?? Confront and Destroy! -7SoH http://www.myspace.com/7stringsofhate

12-15-2007, 01:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
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budda Guiterrorizer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London ontario Posts: 5,677 Real Name: Justin Main Seven: Incoming DC727 OFR Rig: JSX->XXX w/ CL80's Thanked: 33	25W is loud enough as well.. a 50W will be plenty. 3 cheers for free gear! "Do you like burned toast with your JAM? cuz we're on FIRE!"

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ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 6,346 Real Name: Max Main Seven: Carvin DC727 + OFR Main ERG: A Dead Cat Rig: Plexi Superlead Thanked: 28	yes. it is significantly loud enough Reverse Headstocks or Bust Dude...i just got a spam email that was titled "Funky date rape trick" -Zepp88 I just got another funny email "Her pussy smiled at me" -Zepp88 Don't tell me you haven't heard of Raptor Jesus It's important that you know this information :headnod: It will decide your fate when we are pwned. -JoeOvChaos I was going KAT KAT KAT KAT and you were going KAT... chk... KAT... chk-die. -TomAwesome

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Lankles Fuelled by Chicken alone. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 270 Main Seven: Loomis FR + Blackouts Rig: Engl T50 > Orange HP Thanked: 5 / 1	Unless your drummer is PUNISHINGLY loud then definitely yes. Defamer - Brisbane Death Metal

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God Hand Apostle VEGANSTRAIGHTEDGE Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago IL. Posts: 675 Main Seven: LTD MH307/KxK order 11/06 Main ERG: 1st Oni 8/VF Mito 7 bass Rig: V-Amp > Crate TD-50C Thanked: 7	I had a 50 watt Mesa Single Recto that was fucking LOUD!!! Yngwie plays 50 watt heads, and he's obnoxiously loud.

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God Hand Apostle VEGANSTRAIGHTEDGE Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago IL. Posts: 675 Main Seven: LTD MH307/KxK order 11/06 Main ERG: 1st Oni 8/VF Mito 7 bass Rig: V-Amp > Crate TD-50C Thanked: 7	HA! Totally. Lots of gold jewelry embedded in your sweaty chest hair past the pirate foofoo shirt increases loudness as well.

12-15-2007, 05:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
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dpm RnB causes cancer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 2,641 Real Name: Dan Main Seven: Old UV Main ERG: Oni 8 string Rig: modded Laney VC50 Thanked: 14	50w is plenty loud, that shouldn't be an issue. What you do run into quicker on a 50w amp is power stage distortion. You'll find 100w stays a little tighter for the same given volume level, which can be beneficial if you're playing low tuned metal. Transformer design, tube types, circuit design, and biasing are big things here too. A well executed 50w amp will decimate a poorly executed 100w amp.

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