[TomAwesome]

I haven't played through enough overdrive pedals to have any really valid opinion, but I'm quite enjoying my Bloody Murder.

Originally Posted by mnemonic

woooooooooo

See? It's so damn metal it doesn't even need a freakin' amp! Just plug in the guitar and go!

[Ishan]

The BM doesn't sound like your standard TS9, compared to the TO800 (as I could compare them both on my rig) the BM gots far more balls, is tighter, far more volume (BIG clean boost) and the tone pot reaction is totaly different(the BM tone at 0 correspond to the TO800 at 3 or 4. The BM is VERY bright).
They are both OD, both TS9/808 based, but they are totaly different I'd say the BM is totaly geared toward highgain amp boosting more than the traditional blues OD, even if it can be used like that with the tone on 0-3.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by JBroll

You're also running into Colin Richardson and James Murphy, among many others...

Jeff

That's cool then.

I am just not a fan of what Andy Sneap has done. The "no dynamics" thing bothers me.

[JBroll]

I'd find it hard to say even that... not only is he not the mastering engineer on all of the albums he produces, he has noted on a number of occasions that his mixes (like the new Megadeth) have significantly more headroom than a lot of the more popular stuff.

I find it hard to bash his work, especially given The Gathering, but I still have to say that James Murphy is probably my favorite right now...

Jeff

[VforVendetta00]

Originally Posted by JBroll

Lots of things are 808 or 9 clones. The TS7 is a 9 clone, for example. Hell, you could build a TS808 for about ten bucks in parts.

Personally, I'd say that the best TS would be a few variations on the 'normal' TS - OPA2134 instead of that awful 4558 (yes, it's the 'original', 'authentic', 'Real McCoy'... can it, it's a cheap transistor that was all around Japanese radios and it was cheap and available, it was hardly picked for sounding good), expanded drive knob, a few diode selections, and set up inside the guitar on a DPDT with Drive and Tone as internal trimpots and volume wired as the guitar's overall output volume. Mmm...

EDIT: Holy fucking shit... just saw this.



Okay... now I'd like to know where you get off thinking this kind of post is in any way productive. Do you really see any good coming from this?

You do, for the record, have the distinction of being the first person EVER to complain about my writing style in any sort of context like this, so congratulations if that makes you feel special, but is there any way I'm going to win in this situation? I spent days pulling this thing together for one specific reason - explaining to guitarists how a circuit works.

Guitarists.

And electronics.

Let's put aside the clear signs of masochism in trying to teach a guitarist *anything* useful, and get to how you would have done it. Am I supposed to be completely dry and boring? I doubt your type would have been receptive to that - *yawn*, tl;dr, or, even worse, 'intellectual wanker, write something that isn't so boring' - and I doubt it would have been anywhere near as useful if nobody had gotten around to reading it. So either way I'm fucked, right? Doesn't sound like you'd be the type to read an EE dissertation on clipping circuits.

What's more, I'm not sure how one goes about being 'retarded' in such a post - for fuck's sake, I was dismantling electronics for musicians... have you ever tried to show an orangutan how to make baked Alaska? Try that sometime and you'll figure out why people don't do that too often.

Yes, my sense of humor is a bit eccentric, and certainly a bit stream-of-consciousness, but it hardly takes away from the actual substance of the article - "might be some useful information" my fucking pasty-white ass, go ahead and show me how to figure out where the peak response of a Tube Screamer is. I want to see this. Let's also see you explain how a pair of diodes in a feedback loop cause clipping.

"Might be some useful information"... I'm sorry I couldn't shove a Ph.D. in a pill, take it to your home, and place it on the back of your tongue while washing it down with a glass of Dom Perignon, I'm afraid I'm only capable of putting things in layman's terms over the internet without so much as a diagram for assistance (while working for an audience that not only enjoys the way I write but has fought every attempt I've made at making things more straightforward and less JBrollesque), please accept my sincerest apologies for convincing you to spend ten minutes reading something that'll give you a better understanding of the thread's subject.

Are the analogies normal, stock, run-of-the-mill 'electricity is like water flowing through a pipe' repetitions of everyone else's horseshit? No, should they be? Jesus, if someone saying something that you haven't heard before in a way that isn't 'fuckin a it does this lol' gives you a headache, I'll be the first to put in for the 'buy V some serious fucking Tylenol' fund.

Seriously... several days' worth of spare time in putting this together, not to mention the months before this spent fielding questions about everything imaginable pertaining to this stuff and years of taking shit apart to learn how it works...

FOR.

FUCKING.

FREE.

And you're complaining?

Thank you for making the internet a less helpful place. People like you are why people who know what the fuck they're talking about give up trying to help others and move on. Remind me to warn anyone else who wants to give away anything helpful and informative to 'write it again without trying to be funny and retarded' just to make sure they don't displease you.

Jeff

hahahaha.......well sorry to have offended you but i guess i don't expect people to assume i'm a fuckin retard that 3rd grade analogies and poor humor are needed for me to understand the subject matter. well, i know to ignore your "articles". well, or i would if i cared to remember your screenname after i submit this reply........

[JBroll]

No, seriously. I've never heard anything about my analogies insulting the intelligence of any readers, they just happen to be more interesting and intuitive than explaining things from a strict electrical engineering standpoint. In any case... try teaching this stuff to anyone sometime and tell me what works best for you, because I've been doing this shit for literally as long as I've been in school so it's not like I don't know what I'm fucking doing.

I don't care if you ignore my posts... it's your loss. I'd just like to see you do better if you think my work is such total shit.

Jeff

[noodles]

Hi. Mod doing mod stuff. Mind cutting this shit out, and getting back to the topic at hand?

[Ishan]

on topic :


It rules, buy it!

And mine rules even more

[eaeolian]

Originally Posted by JBroll

I'd find it hard to say even that... not only is he not the mastering engineer on all of the albums he produces, he has noted on a number of occasions that his mixes (like the new Megadeth) have significantly more headroom than a lot of the more popular stuff.

I find it hard to bash his work, especially given The Gathering, but I still have to say that James Murphy is probably my favorite right now...

<off topic>

I like a lot of Andy's earlier work. His stuff lately strikes me that he's relying too much on "sounding like Andy Sneap". It works for him, but I wouldn't want my mix to sound like what he did with the last Into Eternity, for example.

<on topic>

Best bang for buck is a TS7, IMO. Best sounding? JoeOvChaos' mods, of course.

[Bound]

Maxon OD9 for the w1n