Best speakers for Metal

ParkerGuy · 11-21-2007, 07:27 AM

Hey guys im getting a John Suhr 4x12 unloaded, but i dont know what speakers i want to put in it yet.

I need this thing to sound huge. im not really a vintage 30 guy, but im open to just about anything else.

This cab is straight front, and built the same way as a bogner uberkab and a diezel cab.

should i do an x pattern of 2 different types of speaker?

EV? Eminence? Celestion? im pretty open.

Im using a 100 watt Two Rock Custom Reverb Artist that i had made for me a couple of years ago, and im gunna get a Diezel VH4S or a CAA OD100 SE+ sometime soon.

I play akward prog metal atonal stuff and alot of death metal with huge leads. Like Meshuggah/Dillinger and Arch Enemy/Children of Bodom.

My teacher Joe Stump uses marshall cabs and i like his sound alot.

Give me your suggestions!

loktide · 11-21-2007, 07:32 AM

well, it depends on the cab. V30s are kind of meh in ENGL cabs, but slay in orange cabs. I'm sure most dudes will suggest you celestion c90's indepently of cabs. they're supposed to be less middy than v30s and also tighter in the bass. anyway, i'm talking about these guys:

LordOVchaoS · 11-21-2007, 07:36 AM

X-patterns can work quite well. My favs are:

V30's & G12T-75's (I HATE both of these speakers alone but together they sound killer!)

Eminence Swamp Thangs & Tonkers

The better choice IMO. Two speakers that are kind of opposite of eachother so together they cover EVERYTHING! VERY tight and percussive, perfect for metal!

noodles · 11-21-2007, 05:31 PM

Another vote for C90s, since that is what I use. Smooth highs, warm mids, nice punchy bass. I've also played the GT75/V30 combo in the Bogner Uberkab, and it sounded great. A little too middy for my taste, but a great heavy rock sound.

999dead666 · 11-21-2007, 05:50 PM

i have eminence legends v12 , they have great clear tone, with tight bass and balanced highs and mids

Leon · 11-21-2007, 06:06 PM

i was thinking about mixing speakers the other day, and in theory it works great, but when it's time to mic your cab, you'll need two mic's.

Desecrated · 11-21-2007, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

i was thinking about mixing speakers the other day, and in theory it works great, but when it's time to mic your cab, you'll need two mic's.

IMO You always need at least two mics anyway

Leon · 11-21-2007, 06:17 PM

well, when your drummer has a large kit, mixing console channels start going fast

of course, in that situation i think it'd be best to mic the 'bassier' speaker. highs tend to travel farther, so you'd get better coverage that way.

ParkerGuy · 11-21-2007, 06:42 PM

anyone use evm 12Ls?

starsnuffer · 11-21-2007, 07:50 PM

I like P50e's, but you need to seal the cab.

-W

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11-21-2007, 07:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
ParkerGuy ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Berklee College of Music Posts: 40 Real Name: Pasquale Main Seven: Alembic Custom 7 Rig: Two-Rock,Parker Thanked: 8 / 1	Best speakers for Metal Hey guys im getting a John Suhr 4x12 unloaded, but i dont know what speakers i want to put in it yet. I need this thing to sound huge. im not really a vintage 30 guy, but im open to just about anything else. This cab is straight front, and built the same way as a bogner uberkab and a diezel cab. should i do an x pattern of 2 different types of speaker? EV? Eminence? Celestion? im pretty open. Im using a 100 watt Two Rock Custom Reverb Artist that i had made for me a couple of years ago, and im gunna get a Diezel VH4S or a CAA OD100 SE+ sometime soon. I play akward prog metal atonal stuff and alot of death metal with huge leads. Like Meshuggah/Dillinger and Arch Enemy/Children of Bodom. My teacher Joe Stump uses marshall cabs and i like his sound alot. Give me your suggestions!

11-21-2007, 07:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
loktide dot like Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 1,897 Real Name: Christian Main Seven: Ibanez RG7680 Main ERG: RG2228 Rig: Diezel-VH4>Orange412 Thanked: 32	well, it depends on the cab. V30s are kind of meh in ENGL cabs, but slay in orange cabs. I'm sure most dudes will suggest you celestion c90's indepently of cabs. they're supposed to be less middy than v30s and also tighter in the bass. anyway, i'm talking about these guys: www.soundclick.com/loktide www.myspace.com/loktide

11-21-2007, 07:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
LordOVchaoS NUDE MAN! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrensburg, MO Posts: 3,949 Real Name: Joe Main Seven: Xiphos 7-string+blackouts Rig: Engl SE->Vader Thanked: 55	X-patterns can work quite well. My favs are: V30's & G12T-75's (I HATE both of these speakers alone but together they sound killer!) Eminence Swamp Thangs & Tonkers The better choice IMO. Two speakers that are kind of opposite of eachother so together they cover EVERYTHING! VERY tight and percussive, perfect for metal! www.bodenhamer-electronics.com the official gain merchant of sevenstring.org.

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11-21-2007, 05:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
999dead666 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: earth Posts: 314 Main Seven: PASGUITAR Lancer Custom Rig: soon Peavey 6505 Thanked: 0	i have eminence legends v12 , they have great clear tone, with tight bass and balanced highs and mids

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Leon {##[====:::. • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Ohio Crew Posts: 12,474 Main Seven: RG7620 of Doom Rig: Mesa / Sovtek Thanked: 81	i was thinking about mixing speakers the other day, and in theory it works great, but when it's time to mic your cab, you'll need two mic's. I have a radical idea. The door swings both ways, we could reverse the particle flow through the gate. We'll cross the streams.

11-21-2007, 06:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Leon {##[====:::. • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Ohio Crew Posts: 12,474 Main Seven: RG7620 of Doom Rig: Mesa / Sovtek Thanked: 81	well, when your drummer has a large kit, mixing console channels start going fast of course, in that situation i think it'd be best to mic the 'bassier' speaker. highs tend to travel farther, so you'd get better coverage that way.

11-21-2007, 06:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
ParkerGuy ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Berklee College of Music Posts: 40 Real Name: Pasquale Main Seven: Alembic Custom 7 Rig: Two-Rock,Parker Thanked: 8 / 1	anyone use evm 12Ls?

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starsnuffer ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 472 Main Seven: RG7CST, DC747 Rig: H&K Triamp mkII Thanked: 5 / 1	I like P50e's, but you need to seal the cab. -W

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