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Unread 09-24-2007, 03:52 PM   #1
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What's the Deal with the All the Tube Screamers?

I see a lot of ppl here using tube screamer pedals with their super high gain amps. This being a 7 string forum and seeing that the amps have enough gain for a genocide I take it that you guys are not using them for that sweet SRV honky tonky tone. Which begs the question... What are you using them for?

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Unread 09-24-2007, 04:00 PM   #2
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There was a long discussion about this a few months ago here:
Riddle me this: Distortion pedals in front of amps

The short version: Most people use it as a clean (or almost clean) signal boost, or sometimes not even boosting the signal. TSxxx's have a low pass filter and some tone shaping that tightens the bass response of and allows you to run your amp gain lower while retaining the saturation of a higher gain setting, but tighter.
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Speak for yourself, I use them for that sweet SRV honky tonk tone.

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What's funny is that I played in a blues/rock band back in college, and my rig was Strat -> Crybaby -> vintage Tube Screamer -> Fender Blues DeVille. Then I sold it when I joined a metal band. This was before they were worth more than ten bucks.

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Unread 09-24-2007, 04:35 PM   #7
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I read this on the older thread: "It will generally make ANY AMP sound better. Any."

I really have to disagree. I tried an Ibanez TS-7, a TS-9 and a Maxon OD808
in front of my Diezel Herbert and it actually made the amp sound thinner.

Anyone got a clue why that could be?!

The Maxon OD808 was really great with my old Mesa Rectos, but now...I dunno.

Well...not that I would NEED an overdrive pedal for the Herbert. But I just wanted to try it
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Because Diezel's suck?








I'm joking. My expereince with the Diezel was that it is a very thin sounding amp anyway, and i needs all the bass you can kick at it - and I wass playing through a Blackmachine B8 tuned to low 'e'
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Sounds like I need to buy a couple of OD pedals and try that myself. I found that my DS-1 has way too much gain for my clean channel even when set to the minimum. Gotta add a SD-1 and a TS of some sort to my shopping list.
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Speak for yourself, I use them for that sweet SRV honky tonk tone.
Actually, on occasion I do. A TS with the gain about 2/3 and the level most of the way up hitting the front end of an ever-so-slightly driven Rectifier is a SERIOUSLY good blues tone.

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Actually, on occasion I do. A TS with the gain about 2/3 and the level most of the way up hitting the front end of an ever-so-slightly driven Rectifier is a SERIOUSLY good blues tone.
Indeed it is.
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Stitch is getting jealous - seems Shawn isn't the only gay one here.

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edit: if you have to ask why we use OD pedals in front of high gain amps, you probably haven't tried it yet.

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edit: if you have to ask why we use OD pedals in front of high gain amps, you probably haven't tried it yet.
Right... Anyways... Sure I have tried OD pedals in front of high gain amps, but being the distortion junkie I am it never crossed my mind to use them with the gain all the way down! I cranked them up and then cranked the amp's gain up, got a huge feedback and blew my ear drums. Then when I was done laughing I got up and made a point of never doing it again :P
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Yeah, they aren't used to add gain - they are a tone-shaping tool. They tighten up a loose amp, or add clarity to notes. They add good harmonics, too.

gain down, tone middle (ish) volume about half or more (some people use it all the way up) ALL in front of an amp = sex. You'll notice that with the OD the clarity will increase and you'll use even less gain. on my Pball the gain is on about 2-3 MAX and my bloody murder it's about level 2-3 as well. It's very clean and articulate, but more importantly, brutal bitches.
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Actually, on occasion I do. A TS with the gain about 2/3 and the level most of the way up hitting the front end of an ever-so-slightly driven Rectifier is a SERIOUSLY good blues tone.
You obviously missed my second post.

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