[matt7]

Does anyone know if this is supposed to happen? I used to have lots of flutter but now its completely gone after installing my T-no

[7 Dying Trees]

Sounds about right, it's basically a metal pole in a shaft being added to the trem, and while this doesn't affect trem use (pull ups and dives) it will "deaden" flutter, as the trem is no longer a spring only system (ie, the flutter is the springs fluttering). ALthough, as kev says later on (yes, this is an edit), if it is properly aligned, this shouldn't be an issue

[matt7]

Damn, seem's like I've wasted my money then

[Hellbound]

Are you talking about when you hit on the trem bar after hitting a note the note will vibrate? because mine still does that even with the tremol-no installed.

[loktide]

Originally Posted by matt7

Damn, seem's like I've wasted my money then

well, at least you saved mine...
I didn't think about that and was about getting a tremol-no.

[JPMDan]

Originally Posted by Hellbound

Are you talking about when you hit on the trem bar after hitting a note the note will vibrate? because mine still does that even with the tremol-no installed.

YouTube - John Petrucci Under a Glass Moon Solo

the first 2 trem tricks he does is called flutter.

[metalfiend666]

Maybe you should PM Kevan about it, he designed it.

[darren]

I can still flutter like crazy on my JP7 which has an original Tremol-No installed.

If your trem won't flutter with the Tremol-No installed (and disengaged), then you haven't got it set up properly. It's not a design flaw.

You need to spend a lot of time (10-30 minutes) adjusting the claw screws in tiny increments before locking everything down so there's ZERO friction on the Tremol-No's shaft when it's disengaged. I think a lot of people underestimate this part of the installation or ignore it altogether, but it's a crucial part of getting the T-No to function as designed.

The best place to go for Tremol-No questions and support is their own forum... you'll get your questions answered by Kevan VERY quickly.

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[starsnuffer]

It's only going to flutter if you have it unlocked. In otherwords, if it's not actually doing anything. If you need to flutter on every song, don't buy one. (but then you probably have more problems then being out of tune)

It won't flutter with it half or fully locked.

-W

[Drew]

Originally Posted by matt7

Does anyone know if this is supposed to happen? I used to have lots of flutter but now its completely gone after installing my T-no

I've been using one for years now, since the prototyping phase. I've noticed that my flutter changed slightly - it's now slightly faster and not quite as wide - and there may have been a slight decrease in the duration, but I'd guestimate no more than 20% or so. And keep in mind this is all on a Lo-Pro 7 trem with some wear issues on the arm holder, where flutter was never amazing to begin with.

Short of that, I've had no problems with flutter - you just have to get the alignment correct. Screw with your set up a bit, you need to get it locked down so that the bar is exactly in line with the holder so there's no excess friction in the system.