What am I doing wrong

tonymustang302 · 05-30-2007, 06:53 PM

Ok, so a guy at work owns a guitarshop thats closing down, told me to come in and he'll give me everything at cost. I finally have enough money for a half-stack and a 7 string. I buy the schecter Hellraiser 7-string and a 6505+ with matching cab. Now im sitting at home messing with it and im pissed because when i palm mute its not crunchy enough. What am I doing wrong. I have been searching for the palm-mute crunch like unearth, killswitch, early metallica and everyone said I need a halfstack. Now I have one, oplaying it on level 1 and not getting it. What are tricks, secrets I need help. If ure wondering what palm mute crunch Im talking bout then listen to Unearths "giles" when they just palm-mute. I was told by many people the 6505+ is all i need. Now i have it with a killer guitar and dont. Now be easy on me guys. Also i was told to run a TS9 on the rythem channel with distortion to get that crunchy palm-mute sound. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ive tried everything.

OzzyC · 05-30-2007, 07:35 PM

Belive it or not, less gain.

theunforgiven246 · 05-30-2007, 08:30 PM

First off, what are your settings?

tonymustang302 · 05-30-2007, 09:18 PM

pre = 8 , Low = 8, Mid = 2, High = 9, post usually 1 ( in the house ), presence = 7, resonance = 8

MF_Kitten · 05-30-2007, 09:25 PM

back the gain down a bit, and turn the volume up (you have to, sorry! :P)

DeL07 · 05-30-2007, 09:28 PM

EMGs aren't the craziest for a big crunch...

Wait, that's not right... EMGs aren't the craziest for a fat chug...

technomancer · 05-30-2007, 09:28 PM

Yeah most tube amps don't sound good at low volumes

You could also get an attenuator to simulate load so the amp sounds better at lower volumes, but you need to be careful with them.

NovaReaper · 05-30-2007, 09:29 PM

you're supposed to use the lead channel for heaviness, haha

kmanick · 05-30-2007, 09:34 PM

try this (I used to have a hellraiser 7 and I have a 5150)
lead channel
pre = 4-5
bass =5
mid=4
treble=3-4
low res = 6
pres= 4-5
post gain =3
the 5150's (6505's) sound completely different when you run them at 1 or when you run them at say 4-5.
they are much less "fizzy" the more you turn them up and they get clearer and crunchier as well.
I actually run mine into a hotplate because tonally I like mine much better when the post gain is above 3 (but that is really freaking loud)
I would never run the pregain on mine above 7. anything after that just adds noise and compression and you lose that "chunk" that you're looking for.
If you don't have a hotplate you can run an MXR 10 band EQ in the loop and pull the level on it all the way down. It acts kind of like a "choke" , that way you can turn the post gain up without pissing off the neighbors

theunforgiven246 · 05-30-2007, 10:36 PM

05-30-2007, 06:53 PM	#1
tonymustang302 ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 71 Real Name: Tony H. Main Seven: S7320 Main ERG: ESP SC-608 Rig: RM100 - > Mesa 4x12 Thanked: 2	What am I doing wrong Ok, so a guy at work owns a guitarshop thats closing down, told me to come in and he'll give me everything at cost. I finally have enough money for a half-stack and a 7 string. I buy the schecter Hellraiser 7-string and a 6505+ with matching cab. Now im sitting at home messing with it and im pissed because when i palm mute its not crunchy enough. What am I doing wrong. I have been searching for the palm-mute crunch like unearth, killswitch, early metallica and everyone said I need a halfstack. Now I have one, oplaying it on level 1 and not getting it. What are tricks, secrets I need help. If ure wondering what palm mute crunch Im talking bout then listen to Unearths "giles" when they just palm-mute. I was told by many people the 6505+ is all i need. Now i have it with a killer guitar and dont. Now be easy on me guys. Also i was told to run a TS9 on the rythem channel with distortion to get that crunchy palm-mute sound. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ive tried everything.

05-30-2007, 07:35 PM	#2
OzzyC :ubersquint: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 3,313 Real Name: AntonioPetrucci Main Seven: RG1527RB Main ERG: I can has ERG? Rig: GNX3000 Thanked: 17	Belive it or not, less gain. You've got your head down You've got your eyes closed You look so pitiful now Your body encrusted with ash Breath heavy with toxins Hair singed and matted Clothes frayed and burnt You are left with nothing

05-30-2007, 08:30 PM	#3
theunforgiven246 BEHOLD KLUMPAMUS PRIME! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,367 Real Name: John Main Seven: Ibanez RG 7621 Rig: 5150 combo and vsts Thanked: 13	First off, what are your settings? my girlfriend says i'm totally METAL! balls.

05-30-2007, 09:25 PM	#5
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05-30-2007, 09:18 PM	#4
tonymustang302 ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 71 Real Name: Tony H. Main Seven: S7320 Main ERG: ESP SC-608 Rig: RM100 - > Mesa 4x12 Thanked: 2	pre = 8 , Low = 8, Mid = 2, High = 9, post usually 1 ( in the house ), presence = 7, resonance = 8

05-30-2007, 09:28 PM	#7
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 8,882 Real Name: Steve Main Seven: KxK Sii-7 Rig: Fargen -> Orange Thanked: 49	Yeah most tube amps don't sound good at low volumes You could also get an attenuator to simulate load so the amp sounds better at lower volumes, but you need to be careful with them. Incoming Pimptastic Purple KxK Singlecut of Doom Orange 2x12 - Damn am I colorful

05-30-2007, 09:29 PM	#8
NovaReaper ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: New York Posts: 33 Rig: Podxt>audigy>line-in Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	you're supposed to use the lead channel for heaviness, haha

05-30-2007, 09:34 PM	#9
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05-30-2007, 10:36 PM	#10
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