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View Poll Results: What's the cause of the fizzyness?
Crap Ibanez pick ups 9 100.00%
Crap Ruby 6L6 0 0%
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Unread 07-06-2012, 03:18 AM   #1
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6505 tube question

hey guys,my 6505 has Ruby 6L6,since i bought it.The old owner told me they were almost new.I find the amp pretty fizzy.
Do you think it's because of the tubes or because of the pickups? They are crappy Ibanez stocks 7 (V77 and V78)

what's the causein your opinion? I use a Mesa Boogie Stiletto 2x12.
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Unread 07-06-2012, 02:16 PM   #2
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Ruby tubes are top notch.

Tube amps dont go "fizzy" (minus ....ty caps/pots)

Vintage series pickups arent crap.



Trolling? I think so.

edit: if you're not trolling, then you are using this 120 tube watt amplifier at bedroom levels, which is just dumb.
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Unread 07-06-2012, 04:36 PM   #3
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+1!!!
They need to be loud to sound good.



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Deffinately the pickups dude. I have an ibanez RG7321 with the same pickups and i play out of a 5150 but i had the same problem. I plugged in an LTD Stephen carpentor 7 (which has 10X better pickups for a stock guitar) and I had absolutely nothing interfering with my tone. So im buying a set of EMG HZ's, or 707's for the ibanez and yeah, i blast that amp all the time and those Vintage pickups that ibanez uses are junk. no complaints about the guitar besides that.
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Unread 07-07-2012, 02:00 PM   #5
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Ruby tubes are top notch.

Tube amps dont go "fizzy" (minus ....ty caps/pots)

Vintage series pickups arent crap.



Trolling? I think so.

edit: if you're not trolling, then you are using this 120 tube watt amplifier at bedroom levels, which is just dumb.

I did use the 6505 at bedroom levels,but also at 3 (which is my band volume,and pretty ....ing loud) it is still a bit harsh.i do realluy think it's the Ibanez pickups.they are really harsh and noisy with every amp i play.Anyway i ordered D Activators,hehe.


And anyway,no trolling.Maybe my ears are trolling me,making me believe i hear fizzy sounding amps?
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Unread 07-09-2012, 08:28 PM   #6
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The 5150 (6505) are known to be "fizzy" amps. That's why a lot of people compare them to a can of bees. You either like that sound, or you don't. Personally I love it. You'll probably want to have the bias mod done. 5150's are biased real cold by default. Warming up the bias removes a lot of the fizz.

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^ No they arent. They are known for testicle crushing metal tones.
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^ No they arent. They are known for testicle crushing metal tones.
Well, that too

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Too fizzy?

Turn Presence down.
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On any of the 5150's I've had, I ran the presence at '0' and the treble pretty conservatively. The same applies to Mesa Rectifiers. Also a more mellow tube in the 'V1' position will tame the fizz a bit. I found I liked a Tung-Sol in the V1 spot, ran the gain fairly low on the lead channel, and then slammed the front of the amp with an overdrive. Huge, tight low end with a smooth top end that still has plenty of crunch.
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My 5150 is fizzy, too. I've had it up to 3.5 before I get yelled at to turn it down, and the fizz is still there, just less apparent. Also, when the volume gets too high, the amp just sounds a bit harsh. I'm currently looking to trade my 5150 signature for a JSX.
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Also, I run two noise gate with my 5150. One before the amp, one in the fx loop. The fizziness is still there. I also play a DC800 with BKP aftermaths. I thougt it was my picksups too, but it wasn't.
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How are you guys finding 6505's fizzy...try the 666 setting and go from there. IMO its pretty hard to make a 6505 sound bad.
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How are you guys finding 6505's fizzy...try the 666 setting and go from there. IMO its pretty hard to make a 6505 sound bad.
It doesn't sound bad by any means, but that fizz is ....ing infuriating.
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I heard i may happen if i stand too close to the amp.
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if the fizz is really that bad why not get a rack EQ and EQ it out?
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Ruby tubes are top notch.
Are they? Which ones exactly? The chinese, the russian or the slovakian ones?
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When I got my 6505+ years back it had a bit of that high end fizz you speak of. Its likely the amp itself but you can dial it in to get the tone you like pretty easily and knock out the fizz. Also retubing mine with JJs tamed much of the fizz and smoothed out the mids alot. Rubys arent terrible tubes being stock but I would try some JJ 6L6s in that beast.
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Presence down, tone knob down could help. 5150/6505 are generally fizzy though..

FS: ESP LTD M-1000 (Original floyd rose) w/ JP pickups (Crunch lab and liquifire)
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Rubys arent terrible tubes being stock but I would try some JJ 6L6s in that beast.
A part of Rubys linecard are JJs. You can recognize them by their "CZ" suffix.
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I'm going to get mine FJA modded soon. I'm going for the 60 watt metal mod (for better low volume tone), the sweepable Mid EQ, and the adjustable noise suppressor. The noise suppressor claims to cut down on a LOT of the fizz, and the metal mods that Jerry does are also supposed to cut down on the fizz.
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Id swap the pickups. Ruby tubes are badass, and they wouldnt be causing fizz. A bias mod and proper bias would probably fix some of the fizz, but these amps gotta be turned up to a degree to get rid of that fizziness. 6505s are meant to be loud.
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