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Unread 05-29-2012, 05:05 AM   #1
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Pedal type power amps

Hey guys,

looking into a super downsized rig for jamming/small gigs.

Ive got a crapload of pedals I can use as preamps and I would like to add a tiny pedal type of power amp. I've heard or the EHX and the AMT pedals, my main concern is the weight, size and obviously tone!

Whats out there? Is it loud enough to play with drums/on a small stage (300 people venue)? Do they actually sound good?

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Unread 05-29-2012, 08:50 AM   #2
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I've also considered getting the EHX Magnum 44 but have been concerned if it's loud enough. Any experiences with full loud metal band? Haven't pulled the trigger on that also because guy from Matrix Amplification wrote on the Fractal board that there is coming a portable version of GM50 at some point. Could be perfect for small pedal based rigs.
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Unread 05-29-2012, 09:23 AM   #3
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^Exactly, at the EHX price point, might as well go matrix
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I have a 44 magnum, which I freaking love!

here's a vid, its just my halo into a tightmetal into the ehx, into a marshal mg cab.
Edit: Plenty loud for giging, and has a SWEET vintage saturated tone when you crank it.
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cool stuff! thanks for the info!

Other opinions? What about the AMT stuff?
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Just tried the 22 Caliber today with a Tech 21 U.S.Steel into an Orange 4x12.
Really loud, but not clean at all, so it didn't play nice with the Tech 21 unfortunately.

Still impressive though, and would probably be useful for non-metal players. If a much cleaner version is made I'm sold!
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Just tried the 22 Caliber today with a Tech 21 U.S.Steel into an Orange 4x12.
Really loud, but not clean at all, so it didn't play nice with the Tech 21 unfortunately.

Still impressive though, and would probably be useful for non-metal players. If a much cleaner version is made I'm sold!
you may still want to look into the 44 magnum, twice the power, twice the clean headroom. You can get up to gigging levels before breakup really hits.
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twice the power, twice the clean headroom
That's not really how that works.

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Is there really anything out there for this kind of thing other than the EHX pedals?
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Is there really anything out there for this kind of thing other than the EHX pedals?
AMT has their Tube Cake series power amp pedals.

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That's not really how that works.
all I know is, I can get a lot louder that a 22. caliber before it breaks up
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all I know is, I can get a lot louder that a 22. caliber before it breaks up
You are getting more headroom, it's just not doubles because the wattage rating has doubled.

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cool stuff! thanks for the info!

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The AMT tube cake stuff appears to be 3w, is that usable at all in a jamming situation?

My ENGL e530 preamp has an inbuilt 6w SS power amp, which sounds like total shit, which can get loud enough.
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I doubt it man, 3W is well..3W
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Well so far it doesn't look good.

Has anyone tried the damn matrix with an analog preamp/pedal? I know the axe-fx and pod users rave about how awesome it is, but how does it fare with non modelers?

I just cant be assed go to play a 30 minute set and ruin my back carrying my 30kg rack (excellent word placement ).
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Crate powerblock! Those are discontinnued, but you might find a used one.
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Price is nice too.
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^thanks!

But does it actually sound good?
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To be honest, I haven't got to play one yet. But I've seen many people brag about it. Especially for modelling where transistors aren't an issue.

I didnt see you were from Latvia.. It seems like you can run it with 120-240V, but do some research before you descide to order from Ebay
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Sorry to bust some bubbles but the EHX 44 magnum is only slightly louder than the 22 caliber and depending on whose your drummer even the 44 magnum will not cut it in a ROCK band (I was in a rock band before). So I can only forsee the 44 magnum not being able to cut through much in a metal band. Just my 2 cents.
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+1 on this. Big +1.

They're small, but they're ....ING loud for their size. 150W mono and 75W stereo.
Not to mention they can be found a bit cheaper then pedal amps.
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Hell, for that matter, look at some of the new bass amp heads that have been coming out over the last few years.

Mega wattage, about the size of wireless router.
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I did the EHX 44 Magnum with various pedals in the past and LOVED it. Pedal rigs are so much fun and the 44 magnum ir more than loud enough for any need... it has the volume to jam with a band, maybe not fill a stage but mic it up or go direct for that.
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+1 for the crate. My other guitarist uses his sometimes to run his Vox Tonelab straight into the effects return, and it sounds great.
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Man, it's not a pedal, but get a Behringer iNuke 3000. I got one used from GC for $150 - 3000 watts, 7 lbs, fits in a shallow rack. Done.
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