Which cab is better? Orange PPC412 or Mesa cab with v30s?

markgov · 04-23-2012, 06:19 PM

Hey guys Im just looking for a straight cab with v30s (out of the two above) to add to my rig, which one do most of you guys prefer?

Current Rig...

Heads:
Peavey 6505+
Marshall JVM 210H

Slanted Cab:
Marshall 1960Lead

Stomps:
TS9
2 Noise Gates

Pickups:
EMG 81, 85 - 6 Strings
Seymore Duncan Blackout - 8 String

Thanks, Mark

broj15 · 04-23-2012, 06:52 PM

Neither one is really what I would call better than the other. I've a/b both with my 5150 II and I prefer the orange, but the mesa still sounded great. Just don't get an oversized mesa cab or the open back orange and you should be fine.

robotsatemygma · 04-23-2012, 07:53 PM

I've seen more people use Marshall and Mesa cabs together then Marshall and Orange cabs. But going Orange might prove to be the more unique option.

Seanthesheep · 04-23-2012, 10:37 PM

Orange cabs are darker so itll pair nicely with the marshall and 5150.

155 · 04-23-2012, 11:19 PM

just get Marshall straights ...all u need...

jordanky · 04-24-2012, 09:35 AM

Orange cabs are great, but seeing as you can find Mesa 4x12's on the used market all day for ~$500, sometimes less, I'd go with the Mesa. I was going to buy an Orange cab, but I ended up running across a mint Mesa 4x12 for $400 locally and couldn't be more happy. Just in case you, or other readers may not know, the Orange cabs do not have casters which makes traveling a pain unless you modify it or have a roadcase built for it.

It's a win/win. If I found an Orange cab cheap enough I'd jump on one. Otherwise I could almost buy two Boogie 4x12's used for the same price that I usually see a single Orange 4x12 going for.

MF_Kitten · 04-24-2012, 10:57 AM

the Mesa cabs are the universal metal standard for a reason. They definitely arent the only way though. The Orange cab is pretty awesome, but it has more presence to my ears.

TubeTone · 04-25-2012, 07:24 PM

Apples to Oranges. There are cabs worse or better than both. But these two are on par with each other.

Shaman · 04-26-2012, 09:27 AM

I have had both the Orange PPC412 and the Mesa Oversize 4X12". I personally preferred the Mesa cab over the Orange when I compared the two, so I ended up selling the PPC and I kept the Mesa cab.

They are both great cabs, but to my ears the Mesa sounded a lot better. The Orange had this weird midrange that I never really liked. The Mesa is fatter and smoother.

So my vote goes out to the Mesa Oversize 4X12", there's a reason why a lot of 6505/5150 owners use it!

Razzy · 04-26-2012, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broj15

Just don't get an oversized mesa cab or the open back orange and you should be fine.

Why not? I run a 5150 II into a Mesa OS 4x12, and it sounds nothing short of ....ing awesome.

OfArtAndArsenal · 04-26-2012, 06:46 PM

Get a 2x12 of each and be done with it...

TemjinStrife · 04-26-2012, 07:04 PM

5150 + Mesa OS = metal tone on like every record ever.

amarshism · 04-27-2012, 02:44 AM

Mesa all day everyday. The orange sounds honky with the 5150.

broj15 · 04-27-2012, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razzy

Why not? I run a 5150 II into a Mesa OS 4x12, and it sounds nothing short of ....ing awesome.

In my experiences the mesa os always sounds loose compared to a standard sized closed back cab. I don't think it's an issue with my settings either since I have my bass no higher than 6 but usually keep it around 4.5 and my gain never goes past 2 when i have a boost in front. Maybe it jives with your ears bit for some reason I just couldn't get along with it. Different strokes for different folks I guess

CYBERSYN · 04-27-2012, 04:03 AM

IMO,

The Mesa cab does NOT go well with the recto. Too much lowend.

But with a 6505+, nothing beats it. As someone mentioned, smaller V30's cabs tend to get a mid range "honkeyness" to them. With the dimensions of the OS Mesa, the V30's shine for 6505's/5150's.

evilsaint · 04-27-2012, 07:38 AM

I have 1960, PCC, Stiletto and Recto cab. Recto cab is the best with my old 5150.

xchristopherx · 04-27-2012, 10:50 AM

I had one of the oversized 4x12 cabs and don't get me wrong, it sounded awesome. But I scored an orange ppc412 for 450 and loved it. So much in fact that I sold the Mesa cab. The orange really sounded great with all of my heads, and the Mesa only sounded great with my 5150. I'm open to trying new stuff, but I am truly in love with these orange cabs. I have a ppc212 as well. Next purchase for me will be another ppc412 and then another ppc212. Unless I can get a pair of VHT cabs for a reasonable price.

Bottom line for me, the Mesa cab sounded good. But the orange cab sounds great. I think you will be happy either way.

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04-23-2012, 06:19 PM	#1
markgov SS.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Thunder Bay On Canada Posts: 232 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Which cab is better? Orange PPC412 or Mesa cab with v30s? Hey guys Im just looking for a straight cab with v30s (out of the two above) to add to my rig, which one do most of you guys prefer? Current Rig... Heads: Peavey 6505+ Marshall JVM 210H Slanted Cab: Marshall 1960Lead Stomps: TS9 2 Noise Gates Pickups: EMG 81, 85 - 6 Strings Seymore Duncan Blackout - 8 String Thanks, Mark

04-23-2012, 06:52 PM	#2
broj15 SS.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: The middle of a corn field, IN Posts: 1,443 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Neither one is really what I would call better than the other. I've a/b both with my 5150 II and I prefer the orange, but the mesa still sounded great. Just don't get an oversized mesa cab or the open back orange and you should be fine. "At least Deathcore was heavy as shit when done right, this new stuff sounds like if meshuggah and taking back sunday had a homosexual he/she creature when bred together." -- Some dude on youtube

04-24-2012, 10:57 AM	#7
MF_Kitten Fully Ramblomatic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 9,000 Thanked: 298 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the Mesa cabs are the universal metal standard for a reason. They definitely arent the only way though. The Orange cab is pretty awesome, but it has more presence to my ears. -------------------------------------- What will metal be doing in ten years? What ever Meshuggah will be doing in two. -Anthony

04-26-2012, 09:27 AM	#9
Shaman SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,314 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have had both the Orange PPC412 and the Mesa Oversize 4X12". I personally preferred the Mesa cab over the Orange when I compared the two, so I ended up selling the PPC and I kept the Mesa cab. They are both great cabs, but to my ears the Mesa sounded a lot better. The Orange had this weird midrange that I never really liked. The Mesa is fatter and smoother. So my vote goes out to the Mesa Oversize 4X12", there's a reason why a lot of 6505/5150 owners use it! CYBERSYN likes this.

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robotsatemygma myspace.com/pygar1 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 731 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I've seen more people use Marshall and Mesa cabs together then Marshall and Orange cabs. But going Orange might prove to be the more unique option.

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Seanthesheep SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: OntariO Posts: 923 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Orange cabs are darker so itll pair nicely with the marshall and 5150.

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155 SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ct Posts: 539 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just get Marshall straights ...all u need...

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TubeTone ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2010 Location: R U S S I A Posts: 56 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Apples to Oranges. There are cabs worse or better than both. But these two are on par with each other.

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OfArtAndArsenal SS.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 526 Thanked: 3 / 1 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Get a 2x12 of each and be done with it...

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TemjinStrife Power Metal Cellist Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Manhattan, NY Posts: 4,046 Thanked: 27 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	5150 + Mesa OS = metal tone on like every record ever.

04-27-2012, 02:44 AM	#13
amarshism SS.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Brisbane/World Posts: 241 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Mesa all day everyday. The orange sounds honky with the 5150.

04-27-2012, 04:03 AM	#15
CYBERSYN CYBERnetic SYNergy Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sunny Coast, Australia Posts: 5,375 Thanked: 33 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	IMO, The Mesa cab does NOT go well with the recto. Too much lowend. But with a 6505+, nothing beats it. As someone mentioned, smaller V30's cabs tend to get a mid range "honkeyness" to them. With the dimensions of the OS Mesa, the V30's shine for 6505's/5150's. Make a rule where, who ever messes up gets punched in the face. That is how I run my solo project. - Floppystrings Search this site by going to Google and adding site:sevenstring.org after your search word!

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evilsaint SS.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Earth Posts: 345 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have 1960, PCC, Stiletto and Recto cab. Recto cab is the best with my old 5150. My Blog : http://powerdragon-powerdragon.blogspot.com/ That's all about guitars and amps.

04-27-2012, 10:50 AM	#17
xchristopherx SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: boston Posts: 111 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I had one of the oversized 4x12 cabs and don't get me wrong, it sounded awesome. But I scored an orange ppc412 for 450 and loved it. So much in fact that I sold the Mesa cab. The orange really sounded great with all of my heads, and the Mesa only sounded great with my 5150. I'm open to trying new stuff, but I am truly in love with these orange cabs. I have a ppc212 as well. Next purchase for me will be another ppc412 and then another ppc212. Unless I can get a pair of VHT cabs for a reasonable price. Bottom line for me, the Mesa cab sounded good. But the orange cab sounds great. I think you will be happy either way.

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