Which multi-amp setup?

Rossness · 10-03-2011, 05:24 PM

It seems like ever year or so I want to change out the main amp I'm using on my rig. I've had dozens of amps and always find something to nitpick about each one. Currently I'm using an orange RV100 and It's the closest I've gotten to that sound I hear in my head. However, it's never going to be perfect, and since I'm always looking for better tones, it makes me wonder if modeling is the right way to go. I'm tired of getting a new rig every year and just want something I won't get tired of. As far as tones I like-

Smooth tube high gain sound from my orange
Not the tone, but the response and feel of a splawn QR
Channel 3 from an ENGL Steve Morse
OD1-orange on a JVM 410 marshall
Channels 3/4 from a vh4
SLO lead
smooth yet sparkly highs from a hiwatt/ vox
The well defined power of a krankenstein
fat cleans of a fender
and that amp that sit between a recto and a marshall that isn't a 5150 or a fryette (I had a sig:x once and it had great tone, but for some reason, the sound frequency gave me huge headaches)

I used to be a MTS guy. I had 3 different MTS amps and a mess of modules and got out of the mts world as it felt like a money pit, buying module after module and having them modded. I've heard some of the Salvation modded modules and they sound incredible. If I had the RM1250 I'd have 12 module slots and know I could find the tone I'm looking for. It might be a little pricy, but If I got tired of a module, I could always swap it out for something else.

Then there's the axe fx 2. I've heard raves about this system but I haven't had the chance to play one or hear one live. Just about every digital modeler I've heard, never lives up to the hype and I'm always let down. The axe might be cheaper in the long run, I'd have to buy a power amp as well. I do like the fact that I could plug headphones into it and jam alone at home silently without bugging anyone else. Then again, it is digital, so I have my doubts about it.

Which unit would you choose and why?

RichIKE · 10-03-2011, 07:17 PM

It sounds like you like so many different tones and amps and feels that you're never going to find "the amp" I would suggest sitting down for a few hours with an axefx (if you can find one) and really tweak it. You should be able to build all the sounds in your head and get the feel, since you can edit almost any parameter of the model. A tube poweramp would help even more with the feel. my 2 cents.

mikemueller2112 · 10-03-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RichIKE

It sounds like you like so many different tones and amps and feels that you're never going to find "the amp" I would suggest sitting down for a few hours with an axefx (if you can find one) and really tweak it. You should be able to build all the sounds in your head and get the feel, since you can edit almost any parameter of the model. A tube poweramp would help even more with the feel. my 2 cents.

I'll agree with this. This will give you the most versatility in one box. Become familiar with it and you'll have a lot of options.

Stealthdjentstic · 10-03-2011, 08:14 PM

Genres? Guitars?

Rossness · 10-03-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthtastic

Genres? Guitars?

Hair band and alt rock stuff on Charvel's- Lots of charvel's.

155 · 10-03-2011, 11:34 PM

get the jvm for sure

TRENCHLORD · 10-03-2011, 11:50 PM

Have you given a recto with EL34s a try?
A little more clarity with a little less fatness. (to my ears anyway)
I prefer the 6L6 myself, but many swap them out.

Or maybe a Roadking so both are running together.

sugarman · 10-04-2011, 02:24 AM

Axe-fx / Axe-fx II. imho the most versatile thing for your claims

Rossness · 10-04-2011, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 155

get the jvm for sure

OD1 orange on the JVM is an awesome tone and is great for my main tone, but od2 isn't. If od2 were voiced like an ENGL steve morse, maybe I could work something out. Then there's my alterative tone (think wolfmother). My orange works extremely well for that style of music. When I want an 80's style i kick on an EQ in the fx loop, but it just sounds kind of weird.

But I always end up getting bored with my tone and seek to change it up, so getting something like a JVM wouldn't work because in a year I'd want something new.

I should add that I used to own a JVM 205H and didn't find the tone saturating enough or have as wild of a tone as I like.

ShadowFactoryX · 10-04-2011, 07:59 AM

with that many tones in mind, you'll want to spend a good ammount of time with a high end modeler, if you also have access to different power amps/cabs to pair with it too

Rossness · 10-09-2011, 12:54 AM

I think I'll go with the axe

Jzbass25 · 10-09-2011, 03:08 AM

Do the axe for sure, this guy will prove to you it does the tones you want. Just watch his vids

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10-03-2011, 05:24 PM	#1
Rossness Hair Bands Rule! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 169 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Which multi-amp setup? It seems like ever year or so I want to change out the main amp I'm using on my rig. I've had dozens of amps and always find something to nitpick about each one. Currently I'm using an orange RV100 and It's the closest I've gotten to that sound I hear in my head. However, it's never going to be perfect, and since I'm always looking for better tones, it makes me wonder if modeling is the right way to go. I'm tired of getting a new rig every year and just want something I won't get tired of. As far as tones I like- Smooth tube high gain sound from my orange Not the tone, but the response and feel of a splawn QR Channel 3 from an ENGL Steve Morse OD1-orange on a JVM 410 marshall Channels 3/4 from a vh4 SLO lead smooth yet sparkly highs from a hiwatt/ vox The well defined power of a krankenstein fat cleans of a fender and that amp that sit between a recto and a marshall that isn't a 5150 or a fryette (I had a sig:x once and it had great tone, but for some reason, the sound frequency gave me huge headaches) I used to be a MTS guy. I had 3 different MTS amps and a mess of modules and got out of the mts world as it felt like a money pit, buying module after module and having them modded. I've heard some of the Salvation modded modules and they sound incredible. If I had the RM1250 I'd have 12 module slots and know I could find the tone I'm looking for. It might be a little pricy, but If I got tired of a module, I could always swap it out for something else. Then there's the axe fx 2. I've heard raves about this system but I haven't had the chance to play one or hear one live. Just about every digital modeler I've heard, never lives up to the hype and I'm always let down. The axe might be cheaper in the long run, I'd have to buy a power amp as well. I do like the fact that I could plug headphones into it and jam alone at home silently without bugging anyone else. Then again, it is digital, so I have my doubts about it. Which unit would you choose and why?

10-04-2011, 07:59 AM	#10
ShadowFactoryX OMNIHILITY Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,276 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	with that many tones in mind, you'll want to spend a good ammount of time with a high end modeler, if you also have access to different power amps/cabs to pair with it too I like my guitar tone like I like my women, perfect rounded bottom end, cut in the mid section, heavy on the top end, and super tight. Omnium - Atmospheric/Trance/Ambient

10-09-2011, 03:08 AM	#12
Jzbass25 SS.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando,Fl Posts: 1,168 Thanked: 8 Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Do the axe for sure, this guy will prove to you it does the tones you want. Just watch his vids In the jungle you must wait, until the dice read 5 or 8

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10-03-2011, 07:17 PM	#2
RichIKE Thall Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 323 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It sounds like you like so many different tones and amps and feels that you're never going to find "the amp" I would suggest sitting down for a few hours with an axefx (if you can find one) and really tweak it. You should be able to build all the sounds in your head and get the feel, since you can edit almost any parameter of the model. A tube poweramp would help even more with the feel. my 2 cents.

10-03-2011, 08:14 PM	#4
Stealthdjentstic Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canadia Posts: 19,978 Thanked: 338 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Genres? Guitars?

10-03-2011, 11:34 PM	#6
155 SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ct Posts: 539 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	get the jvm for sure

10-03-2011, 11:50 PM	#7
TRENCHLORD 4ARMEDschoolSECURITY Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: corncountry IL Posts: 3,686 Thanked: 12 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Have you given a recto with EL34s a try? A little more clarity with a little less fatness. (to my ears anyway) I prefer the 6L6 myself, but many swap them out. Or maybe a Roadking so both are running together.

10-04-2011, 02:24 AM	#8
sugarman ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Békés, HU Posts: 30 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Axe-fx / Axe-fx II. imho the most versatile thing for your claims

10-09-2011, 12:54 AM	#11
Rossness Hair Bands Rule! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 169 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think I'll go with the axe