[skattabrain]

I'm loking to use 2 amps and the same time ... possbily even direct record the dry signal from my pickups at the same time.

So I bought a Morley ABY switch. What a piece of garbage. I know some will say it does what it's supposed too ... it's a passive switch/combiner ... but the ground loop noise is crazy bad in my jam space and the main reason why I bought it wasn't to go from Amp A to Amp B ... it was to use both amps at the same time. And when you do that ... it soudns like 50% signal is given to each amp. WICKED LAME!

So in the market for something and I think I've found a few options ...

The George Lynch Tripler by Morley - 3 leads at teh same time ... but I see a gain boost knob which scares me ... is this to compensate for a poor design? After the bad taste left in my mouth from their ABY ... not pumped on this idea.

Stereo Chorus Pedal by ___ company - I won't be able to direct record while using 2 amps ... but I bet this will allow me to use 2 amps with no serious volume fluctuations. Not to mention it's inexpensive and also will have the capability to create a nice W I D E surround sound effect (the amps are about 15 - 20 feet apart).

Thoughts? Anyone using more than 1 amp a time?

[Leon]

i've got that Morely ABY switcher, and it's pretty noiseless, and does exactly what it's supposed to do, pretty flawlessly. it merely sounds like you were expecting it to be something that it simply isn't. it's a great product, just doesn't fit your needs.

if you have any sort of booster pedals laying around (tube screamer clones or whatever) try putting them infront of the ABY. that *may* help compensate for the ABY being passive, and you won't have to buy any new gear.

[skattabrain]

leon, that's my point ... yes it does what it's designed too ... but the combine mode performance hit wasn't what i wanted. so yes, i misunderstood the capability of this unit. our rented jam space has some nasty electrical work. so i need an active solution.

just got a line6 space chorus pedal brand new for $50 ... hoping this does what i really want ... which is to stereoize my input without a tone sucking signal drop.

[Leon]

hmm... if you've got a JSX (tubes) you'll definitely need some good grounding, if not for your tone, then for the safety and longevity of your amp. do you have a power conditioner at all? any chance of having a landlord check the electrical work in the building?

[skattabrain]

Originally Posted by Leon

landlord check the electrical work in the building?

our slumlord wouldn't even replace the mssing bulb in the 1 fixture in our room! thanks for the concern though ... I should get a power conditioner ... thanks for the reminder.

i'll retract the comment about the ABY being garbage ... not being a techie ... when i saw it was passive i wasn't thinking ... "cool, no batteries!", not "2 outputs are sharing the 1 input signal".

Originally Posted by Leon

hmm... if you've got a JSX (tubes) you'll definitely need some good grounding, if not for your tone, then for the safety and longevity of your amp.

without the ABY ... i have no noise issues ... can this mean there is a still a hidden danger?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by skattabrain

without the ABY ... i have no noise issues ... can this mean there is a still a hidden danger?

hmm. maybe there's a bad solder joint in your ABY. you could open it up and check to see if any connections are loose, or if there are any frayed wires. if that's just the case, your amp should be fine. bad grounds in equipment before your amp are pretty much benign and will only hurt your tone. bad grounds (from wall outlets) aren't so bad if you're running a completely solid-state rig, but tube amps carry some very large voltages, which make having good electrical work very essential to good amp tone, and good amp performance.

however, judging by your trust in your landlord (i've had guys like that before ), you may want to pick up some sort of ground / electrical output tester. Roger had one that he showed me, and i thought of getting one, if i only hadn't forgotten what it was called exactly

Roger! what was that thing called? where did you get it?

http://www.professionalequipment.com...qx/default.htm
apparently you can get them at most home improvement stores.
thanks Roger!

[skattabrain]

nice ... thanks leon!

pity there aren't more rehearsal space options north of boston.

[Leon]

it's funny this should come up, as i've been thinking of turning my Morely ABY into an AB, as my Sovtek head has two channels via two inputs, which i'd like to control with an AB pedal and two instrument cables. i'd disengage the Y option, as running a signal, if only at 50% a side, would probably be detrimental to my amp!

[skattabrain]

leon, i tested my outlets ... they are all properly grounded.

but i still have this issue with my new stereo chorus pedal (i bought a space chorus by Line6).

here's what happens i don't understand the issue ...

A - Guitar into chorus pedal (mono out) into my JSX ... All Good!
B - Guitar into chorus pedal (mono out) into my HD147 ... All Good!

C - Guitar into chorus pedal (stereo out) ... right side into my JSX and left side into HD147 ... BAD!!! EXTREMELY NOISY! JSX squeels like a stuck pig ... horrendous feedback. unplug the hd147 line from the pedal ... feedback goes away. what am i doing wrongly here?

[Leon]

hmm. you may want to try a new chorus pedal!