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Unread 05-09-2011, 02:39 PM   #151
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err income was what I meant, I have salary on the brain as I'm currently interviewing for jobs and thinking about making enough money to buy an Axe FX II . That is the median individual income for the USA from as recently as I remember.
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Unread 05-09-2011, 02:44 PM   #152
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Actually the only thing my standard lacks is a headphone output..
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Unread 05-09-2011, 02:45 PM   #153
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Actually the only thing my standard lacks is a headphone output..
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Unread 05-09-2011, 02:50 PM   #154
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I have worked in a IT company who sent equipment all over the world and the extra shipping requirements are a couple of mins extra work at most. Print off a customs invoice with the cost of the item and stick that to the box. Most companies will use internet web pages for the shipping companies so thats easy to do as well. And the actual money collection could be done through usual webstores in $ to avoid any hassle with exchange rates.

Yes it could be hassle with import laws if you were sending hundreds of different products to different countries. But we are talking 4 Fractal Audio products and 5 Atomic audio products which are all electronics based. They are sold in the EU already so theres no problems with meeting safety standards. Taxes are all paid by the reciever so theres no issues with that.

With the question of warranties, most exporters state that if you buy it from the states then there is no warranty. Rondo is a good example of this working fine. Rondo sends out fragile items with a diverse product range all over the world why cant Fractal do it?
They CAN do it, but it sounds like Cliff really doesn't want to bother. It's much easier for them to package ~20 Axe-FX units and do one shipment to G66 rather than setting up and packaging 20 separate international to varying countries. I know it's not ideal for the consumer, but Fractal sure as hell isn't having trouble moving units. There's no incentive for them to put more time into moving their supply when they can't keep up with the demand they already have. These are the same growing pains a lot of boutique companies go through. I'm sure as Fractal's customer base grows along with their manufacturing capabilities, then they'll eventually have to come up with a more efficient means of distribution.

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Unread 05-09-2011, 02:51 PM   #155
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Unread 05-09-2011, 03:07 PM   #156
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Damn i've just received a nice Ultra-offer here in sevenstring.org and i don't know which one to buy xD Ultra or Axe II...ultra is 2 months old and would go around 1800dollars which is a really nice price i think. I'm not a professional guitarrist yet and mostly play and record at my small homestudio..investing 2300€ on Axe-Fx II might be a bit overkill maybe...hmmm (lots of GAS)
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Unread 05-09-2011, 03:19 PM   #157
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Well, first I'd wait to get ot hear what the difference actually is before making my choice. For all the Ooohs and Aaaahs we still haven't heard anything.
It's fractal, it will be good, but exactly how much better than an original one ? Will it actually be worth upgrading if you already own a standard or Ultra ?
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Well, first I'd wait to get ot hear what the difference actually is before making my choice. For all the Ooohs and Aaaahs we still haven't heard anything.
It's fractal, it will be good, but exactly how much better than an original one ? Will it actually be worth upgrading if you already own a standard or Ultra ?
My thoughts exactly, also another thing worrying me is this; what if something breaks up? Will i still have the guarantee as i would be buying it used and from USA. I guess i should just wait and think this over carefully, it's midnight here now anyway, goodnight!
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Well, first I'd wait to get ot hear what the difference actually is before making my choice. For all the Ooohs and Aaaahs we still haven't heard anything.
It's fractal, it will be good, but exactly how much better than an original one ? Will it actually be worth upgrading if you already own a standard or Ultra ?
Agreed but I am almost certain it will be even closer to the real thing thanks to the extra processes

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Unread 05-09-2011, 04:14 PM   #160
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Damn i've just received a nice Ultra-offer here in sevenstring.org and i don't know which one to buy xD Ultra or Axe II...ultra is 2 months old and would go around 1800dollars which is a really nice price i think. I'm not a professional guitarrist yet and mostly play and record at my small homestudio..investing 2300€ on Axe-Fx II might be a bit overkill maybe...hmmm (lots of GAS)
Honestly I'd wait for the Axe-II personally. The price is going to drop on the Ultras (just find a guy on eBay who will ship to you, they're as low as $1500USD in some auctions even today!) so if you want one of those wait for a bit and snag one cheap. If the offer is above that, I'd pass. The Axe-Fx II has one MAJOR thing going for it... FUTURE UPGRADES! The firmware went all the way up to version 11.0 for the Ultra. They're on version 1.0 for the Axe II... you'll still be getting updated models, effects, algorithms etc. for years to come whereas the Ultra, while it is a beast already, will absolutely stay the same as there are no future plans for firmware updates from what I'm hearing and the memory is almost full as-is. Not to mention that Cliff himself said it's using all new algorithms that sound even better.... if he says so, I'd be willing to believe him as he never lied about the Ultra and the Standard!

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Unread 05-09-2011, 04:31 PM   #161
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Honestly I'd wait for the Axe-II personally. The price is going to drop on the Ultras (just find a guy on eBay who will ship to you, they're as low as $1500USD in some auctions even today!) so if you want one of those wait for a bit and snag one cheap. If the offer is above that, I'd pass. The Axe-Fx II has one MAJOR thing going for it... FUTURE UPGRADES! The firmware went all the way up to version 11.0 for the Ultra. They're on version 1.0 for the Axe II... you'll still be getting updated models, effects, algorithms etc. for years to come whereas the Ultra, while it is a beast already, will absolutely stay the same as there are no future plans for firmware updates from what I'm hearing and the memory is almost full as-is. Not to mention that Cliff himself said it's using all new algorithms that sound even better.... if he says so, I'd be willing to believe him as he never lied about the Ultra and the Standard!
If he was in the US I would probably agree with you BUT the price of an Axe Fx II in Europe from G66 is going to be INSANE.... absolutely INSANE.
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Unread 05-09-2011, 04:40 PM   #162
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If he was in the US I would probably agree with you BUT the price of an Axe Fx II in Europe from G66 is going to be INSANE.... absolutely INSANE.
Sorry I meant to say wait and buy one second-hand from the US, like I suggested regarding the Ultra option (forgot to add that ). Even used, it will still be WAY cheaper.

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Unread 05-09-2011, 04:47 PM   #163
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I'm really curious as to how long the waiting list is going to be.
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There is no waiting list. You'll be able to buy online when they come in, and that's it (at least from Fractal, no idea what the Euro distributor will do)

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Well, all I know is I planned on buying an Ultra in october. So I'm glad I waited since I had the money to get one this month. So, good thing for buying new guitars first.
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Unread 05-09-2011, 05:14 PM   #167
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There is no waiting list. You'll be able to buy online when they come in, and that's it (at least from Fractal, no idea what the Euro distributor will do)
With the numbers of people wanting one, are you sure they'll be able to pump out enough of them?
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Didn't they find a manufacturer in China to keep up with demands? Makes sense if they are only selling one product now.
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Well, if the Ultra AND Standard are gone, why go overseas manufacturing? You just got rid of all your previous products so they should be able to devote all current manufacturing they have to the AFX II where they were focusing on 2 different products before. They already have the set up for 2 lines obviously so I would say they probably just modified and would run both the old lines dedicated now to the AFX II so now they have twice the output of one product at home in the USA. That makes more sense.
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With the numbers of people wanting one, are you sure they'll be able to pump out enough of them?
It's very possible the runs will sell out just like the previous ones did occasionally. I'd imagine that during those times it will tell you they're out of stock when you try to order one online...

Also there has been zero official word on any manufacturing changes, so anything anybody says on that at this point is just rumors. Cliff is the one that said there would be no waiting lists this time, it's first come first served when they get them in.

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To the australian guys:
Independent music have removed the prices of all 3 units on their website
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Thats exactly why - there haven't been any in stock for over a month and they haven't made any new ones since they knew everything was going to the II
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