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Unread 11-21-2011, 06:12 PM   #1151
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i think i'll try that when i get home.

Reminds me of my gilmour stage when i depended on a good clean and a distortion pedal
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be careful though, it might not give the results you'd expect if your pups don't have an output as high as mine.
Actually most of my gain patches are using less distortion from the amp and boosted with one of the distortions. Works better with single-coils than getting all the gain from the amp (model).

I also have a bank of Gilmour-inspired patches using the same HiWatt settings and various different distortions / fuzzes that I've been using almost extensively.

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Unread 11-21-2011, 06:35 PM   #1152
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I use my hd500 for death metal. My main patch is intended to pretty much emulate John Gallagher's tone on Descend into Depravity, which i think it does pretty well.

Updated to 1.40... haven't had time to really mess with the new stuff yet. I think my patches might sound a tad muddier now though
not a big fan of the vh140 sound, kinda thin, looking for a modern death metal tone that's thick and harmonically rich but i can still fast/hard gate it for chug and djent

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I've been jamming with my buddy from Boston for the last few days running into the effects return of the Flextone III. Any basic amp with an effects return will do, all you have to do is change the setup to match your configuration.
From what I have heard, it is best to not run it through something like a combo amp. I also feel like certain cabs will get me a better tone. Then again, I am a completely new to this amp modelling stuff. I don't really know what can affect its tone. I quite honestly am not looking to spend a large sum of money as well as the hd pro unit itself is already putting a dent in my disposable income.
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From what I have heard, it is best to not run it through something like a combo amp. I also feel like certain cabs will get me a better tone. Then again, I am a completely new to this amp modelling stuff. I don't really know what can affect its tone. I quite honestly am not looking to spend a large sum of money as well as the hd pro unit itself is already putting a dent in my disposable income.
Different cabs giving you better tone is actually untrue in my experience. The PodHD sounds best using FRFR, which the Flextone III amp I use is as close to that as I can get atm.

That being said, you'll get some speaker coloration of the tone, and you can also disable the speaker emulations if you find the coloration unpleasant.

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That being said, you'll get some speaker coloration of the tone, and you can also disable the speaker emulations if you find the coloration unpleasant.
I was reading over at the line 6 forums - I guess you can only turn off the cabs in the POD HD500. The 300 and 400 you cannot. I find that a little silly, to be honest. WTF was line 6 thinking? Glad I got the 500. Doesn't effect me, but I'd be pissed if I had bought the 400 like I almost did.
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I was reading over at the line 6 forums - I guess you can only turn off the cabs in the POD HD500. The 300 and 400 you cannot. I find that a little silly, to be honest. WTF was line 6 thinking? Glad I got the 500. Doesn't effect me, but I'd be pissed if I had bought the 400 like I almost did.
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I was reading over at the line 6 forums - I guess you can only turn off the cabs in the POD HD500. The 300 and 400 you cannot. I find that a little silly, to be honest. WTF was line 6 thinking? Glad I got the 500. Doesn't effect me, but I'd be pissed if I had bought the 400 like I almost did.
Good point, I forgot that element was specific to the HD500, Pro and Bean. I too almost picked up the HD400 until I read about that and the 4 effect limitation. Then I decided I also wanted the XLR outs as well and that sealed the decision for me.

Odly enough, I use the onboard cab sims pretty exclusively myself. I've tried a few different IRs when futzing about with recording and just haven't found any that I like better than the stock sims.
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would it be okay to plug the HD500 directly into an Orange 412 cab? Would it give good results? I could get a cab right now but not a head, so I wanna know if it would be worth it getting the cab now...

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would it be okay to plug the HD500 directly into an Orange 412 cab? Would it give good results? I could get a cab right now but not a head, so I wanna know if it would be worth it getting the cab now...
WHAAT ???

you need a "PowerSection" to run your POD
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you need a "PowerSection" to run your POD
that's what I knew, but I wished I did not know I don't NEED it... broke guy GAS question ahaha












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the power coming out of the POD is only at line level at most, not nearly strong enough to push a cab. that's why you need a power amp to bring the signal up to a power level that can drive the speakers.

There are cheap power amps though. PA power amps for example.

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new update dlc for the line6 pod hd.

it offers a 'hard gate model' whatever the hell that is

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i downloaded it yesterday but couldn't fnd it :/

edit: nevermind. found it in dynamics
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new update dlc for the line6 pod hd.

it offers a 'hard gate model' whatever the hell that is

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i downloaded it yesterday but couldn't fnd it :/

edit: nevermind. found it in dynamics
You are quite a few days late my friend.
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i'm trying to decide what will give me the best live sound. i'm into shredding, nu metal, djent. should i get the podhd pro or get an amp head (Laney Ironheart, 5150 III, Bugera TriRec, Mesa Boogie Mini Rectifier, etc...)?
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i'm trying to decide what will give me the best live sound. i'm into shredding, nu metal, djent. should i get the podhd pro or get an amp head (Laney Ironheart, 5150 III, Bugera TriRec, Mesa Boogie Mini Rectifier, etc...)?
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i'm trying to decide what will give me the best live sound. i'm into shredding, nu metal, djent. should i get the podhd pro or get an amp head (Laney Ironheart, 5150 III, Bugera TriRec, Mesa Boogie Mini Rectifier, etc...)?
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It really depends on your needs and what you have currently. For my situation, I needed something affordable, that I could easily use for recording, practicing or (in future) playing live. I wanted something I could adapt for use with drastically different guitars and styles. Modelling as a whole is really the only option that fits me in a shoestring budget. I also needed something that I could practice with in absolute quiet so as not to disturb my wife and houseguest at the late hours I practice. I also don't have an extensive collection of analog effects (though even I did, the PODHD does have a switchable effect loop built in to the unit (500 and Pro at least).

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It really depends on your needs and what you have currently. For my situation, I needed something affordable, that I could easily use for recording, practicing or (in future) playing live. I wanted something I could adapt for use with drastically different guitars and styles. Modelling as a whole is really the only option that fits me in a shoestring budget. I also needed something that I could practice with in absolute quiet so as not to disturb my wife and houseguest at the late hours I practice. I also don't have an extensive collection of analog effects (though even I did, the PODHD does have a switchable effect loop built in to the unit (500 and Pro at least).
sounds very similar to my situation. can the podhd 500 or pro rack get better tone than the podhd300? i traded a guitar for the podhd300 and i can get some ok sounds out of it but not good enough to build a whole rig around.
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sounds very similar to my situation. can the podhd 500 or pro rack get better tone than the podhd300? i traded a guitar for the podhd300 and i can get some ok sounds out of it but not good enough to build a whole rig around.
It really depends. The 500, Pro & Bean all have more horsepower and can run more effects at once. Consequently you can also run the full dual rigs (not sure if this is a feature of the 300 & 400. The one thing I will say is that there is definitely a lot of experimentation with the different models, cabs, mics to get the sounds you might be after.

That being said, some of my favorite patches are some of my simpler ones, like the Dr Z Dirty Clean....real simple, configured just like I would the actual amp and sounds great.

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Actually, I'd say that the fact that he's got such a variety of different tastes makes him a prime candidate for an HD500/pro.
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Actually, I'd say that the fact that he's got such a variety of different tastes makes him a prime candidate for an HD500/pro.
also true, but with that he could also achieve some decent tones using free sims like lepou on his comp.

modelling is a great start as you get so much for so little and modellers are getting better and better each year. that and it would fit a budget better than an amp head which would take him from anywhere like $600 to $3000, cabs around $1000, a gate, overdrives, effects, and so on, so in this case it would work well.

but it would also come down to whether he is interested in going down that path or the classice guitar to amp path. if moddeling, go Line 6 for starts, maybe even try some free amp sims. if amps, well then you are for sure gunna have to get out and try anything you can

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also true, but with that he could also achieve some decent tones using free sims like lepou on his comp.

modelling is a great start as you get so much for so little and modellers are getting better and better each year. that and it would fit a budget better than an amp head which would take him from anywhere like $600 to $3000, cabs around $1000, a gate, overdrives, effects, and so on, so in this case it would work well.

but it would also come down to whether he is interested in going down that path or the classice guitar to amp path. if moddeling, go Line 6 for starts, maybe even try some free amp sims. if amps, well then you are for sure gunna have to get out and try anything you can
i use tons of free amp sims and cab impulses. i also use podfarm and amplitube. i haven't been blown away by any of the tones i've gotten from them. i have a podhd300 and as i said it's ok but not spectacular. i was hoping the 500 or the pro was a big step up from the 300 as far as tones go. i already have a randall 4x12 cab with v30's. so i could get the hd500 and a power amp or get an amp head. all the heads i'm looking at are between $800-$1000 and i figured that's what the podhd500 and a power amp would cost as well.
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