Trying to get an "in flames" sounding tone.

6Christ6Denied6 · 06-16-2010, 07:36 PM

i absolutely love their tone, i am getting close with my 6505+ but just i cant get it right. i tune in A# just like they do,

does anybody know how they EQ?

shogunate · 06-16-2010, 07:51 PM

Hmmm

A couple thoughts cross my mind if you're having trouble getting In Flames tone with that amp.
-They use original 5150s, which are single EQ unlike the 6505+ you've got. I may have it flipflopped, but I believe the regular 5150/6505 have more lower mids while the plus has more high mids

someone kick me if I have that backwards.
-Make sure you've got EMGs in there

-Probably trivial, but they usually use les pauls and gibson guitars with a short scale, and consequently have to use something akin to powerlines for strings. That thickness of string gives a different kind of attack than regular strings on a longer scale tuned that low.
-Could be totally off my rocker here, but I remember reading some obscure article alluding that they may swap the stock power tubes (6l6s), not sure what for, but that may be a part of it as well.

Well, that's my

That amp is the basis of their tone, kind of like LOG and their mark IVs, so you shouldn't be too far off, those are the possible variables that came into my mind

Necky379 · 06-16-2010, 08:11 PM

jesper used the 6505+ bjorn uses the 6505. which albums are you talking about? their tone has changed quite a bit from "lunar strain" to "sense of purpose".

Harry · 06-16-2010, 08:16 PM

In Flames from what era?
The production from say, The Jester Race to Clayman, is very very different and consequently the guitar tones are not that similar.
While musically I like their older stuff better, stuff like Clayman has a much more meater, more mid range heavy guitar tone I prefer.
Is that what you're looking for?

6Christ6Denied6 · 06-16-2010, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shogunate

Hmmm

A couple thoughts cross my mind if you're having trouble getting In Flames tone with that amp.
-They use original 5150s, which are single EQ unlike the 6505+ you've got. I may have it flipflopped, but I believe the regular 5150/6505 have more lower mids while the plus has more high mids

someone kick me if I have that backwards.
-Make sure you've got EMGs in there

-Probably trivial, but they usually use les pauls and gibson guitars with a short scale, and consequently have to use something akin to powerlines for strings. That thickness of string gives a different kind of attack than regular strings on a longer scale tuned that low.
-Could be totally off my rocker here, but I remember reading some obscure article alluding that they may swap the stock power tubes (6l6s), not sure what for, but that may be a part of it as well.

Well, that's my

That amp is the basis of their tone, kind of like LOG and their mark IVs, so you shouldn't be too far off, those are the possible variables that came into my mind

i am using emgs as well, also they use 13-68 strings, well bjorn does at least. i am using 12-62 so im not that far off. my tones is close... just not spot on, but im not expecting to get it exactly just as close as i can.

6Christ6Denied6 · 06-16-2010, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necky379

jesper used the 6505+ bjorn uses the 6505. which albums are you talking about? their tone has changed quite a bit from "lunar strain" to "sense of purpose".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necky379

jesper used the 6505+ bjorn uses the 6505. which albums are you talking about? their tone has changed quite a bit from "lunar strain" to "sense of purpose".

well, the tone i am getting right now is closest to a sense of porpose album, which is strange because they use marshalls for that album ( i think)

anyways, i like the tone on soundtrack to your escape a lot.

drenzium · 06-16-2010, 09:23 PM

Gibsons + EMGS + 5150 + Marshall 1960's Cabs.
That's their tone in a nutshell man.

Variant · 06-16-2010, 11:37 PM

Quote:

anyways, i like the tone on soundtrack to your escape a lot.

One of my very favorite recorded tones as well.

I could give or take on the "Clayman" sound, and utterly hate the sound on the last album.

Guitars: Gibson Les Paul and Gibson VooDoo V (Among others)
Pickups: EMG 81
Boost: Electro Harmonix Big Muff
Amp: Peavey 5150
Cab: Marshall 4x12*

*Most likely "Fredman" mic'd, which, yes, makes a difference in the overall result.

Also, keep in mind that Peter Iwers' prominent, biamped, Rat'd up sound is a good part of the overall mojo going on.

shogunate · 06-16-2010, 11:57 PM

Yeah the last one... I dunno what happened. From a diplomatic standpoint I'd say the tone was "dark". Personally I think it sounds like they threw blankets over the speakers and used wedges of cheese for picks.

A big muff for a boost? Didn't know that, dayum Ima hafta try that someday.

STYE caught a lot of shit for some reason and got called nu metal (

) a lot, but it was ....ing sick and was a shining example of gothenburg metal

I love these threads about bands' tones, always something interesting crops up

Variant · 06-17-2010, 12:18 AM

Yeah, my other guitarist called it "the wet sock over the mic" sound.

Agreed on SYTE! It was a brilliant, edgy conceptual piece. I don't get the nu-metal comparisons, either. If anything, it was their most industrial sounding album. Guitars had a hard cut sound, the drums were heavily saturated and spacey, plenty of use of samples and triggers, and Örjan Örnkloo's great synth work backed it all up. Not nu metal in the least.

CodyMTS · 06-17-2010, 12:21 AM

soundtrack to your escape =
Gain 10
Bass 10
Mids 0
Treble 10
Any scoop/contour switch on
hahahaha

PnKnG · 06-17-2010, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6Christ6Denied6

well, the tone i am getting right now is closest to a sense of porpose album, which is strange because they use marshalls for that album ( i think)

anyways, i like the tone on soundtrack to your escape a lot.

ASOP is a mix between Peavey's as the core of the sound and overdubs with Marshall and Orange Amps.

Necky379 · 06-17-2010, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drenzium

Gibsons + EMGS + 5150 + Marshall 1960's Cabs.
That's their tone in a nutshell man.

ive read that they used engl cabs in the studio as well. when i get a chance i go through google pics and find anything on this.

CYBERSYN · 06-17-2010, 09:11 AM

OP,

What cab do you have? I wen't on a chase looking for In Flames toanz.

Like Drenzium said:

Gibsons + EMGS + 5150 + Marshall 1960's Cabs.
That's their tone in a nutshell man.

MF_Kitten · 06-17-2010, 10:42 AM

That "Clayman" sound.... - Ultimate Metal Forum there´s a bunch of info on this here

Scar Symmetry · 06-17-2010, 10:57 AM

Good luck

6Christ6Denied6 · 06-17-2010, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scar Symmetry

Good luck

poopyalligator · 06-18-2010, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drenzium

Gibsons + EMGS + 5150 + Marshall 1960's Cabs.
That's their tone in a nutshell man.

I used to use this exact same setup, and yes that has in flames tone written all over it. Luckily i still have all of that stuff so i can pull it off anytime muahaha

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06-16-2010, 07:36 PM	#1
6Christ6Denied6 SS.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CT Posts: 551 Thanked: 10 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Trying to get an "in flames" sounding tone. i absolutely love their tone, i am getting close with my 6505+ but just i cant get it right. i tune in A# just like they do, does anybody know how they EQ?

06-16-2010, 07:51 PM	#2
shogunate SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: denver, co Posts: 631 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hmmm A couple thoughts cross my mind if you're having trouble getting In Flames tone with that amp. -They use original 5150s, which are single EQ unlike the 6505+ you've got. I may have it flipflopped, but I believe the regular 5150/6505 have more lower mids while the plus has more high mids someone kick me if I have that backwards. -Make sure you've got EMGs in there -Probably trivial, but they usually use les pauls and gibson guitars with a short scale, and consequently have to use something akin to powerlines for strings. That thickness of string gives a different kind of attack than regular strings on a longer scale tuned that low. -Could be totally off my rocker here, but I remember reading some obscure article alluding that they may swap the stock power tubes (6l6s), not sure what for, but that may be a part of it as well. Well, that's my That amp is the basis of their tone, kind of like LOG and their mark IVs, so you shouldn't be too far off, those are the possible variables that came into my mind Maybe it's a promotional gag, you stay the weekend, get a jar of blood

06-16-2010, 09:23 PM	#7
drenzium ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 907 Thanked: 8 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Gibsons + EMGS + 5150 + Marshall 1960's Cabs. That's their tone in a nutshell man. Check out my band. Add us!

06-16-2010, 11:57 PM	#9
shogunate SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: denver, co Posts: 631 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah the last one... I dunno what happened. From a diplomatic standpoint I'd say the tone was "dark". Personally I think it sounds like they threw blankets over the speakers and used wedges of cheese for picks. A big muff for a boost? Didn't know that, dayum Ima hafta try that someday. STYE caught a lot of shit for some reason and got called nu metal () a lot, but it was ....ing sick and was a shining example of gothenburg metal I love these threads about bands' tones, always something interesting crops up Maybe it's a promotional gag, you stay the weekend, get a jar of blood

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06-16-2010, 08:11 PM	#3
Necky379 SS.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 946 Thanked: 20 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	jesper used the 6505+ bjorn uses the 6505. which albums are you talking about? their tone has changed quite a bit from "lunar strain" to "sense of purpose".

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06-17-2010, 12:18 AM	#10
Variant Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: All-white-tukee, Arizona Posts: 5,657 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, my other guitarist called it "the wet sock over the mic" sound. Agreed on SYTE! It was a brilliant, edgy conceptual piece. I don't get the nu-metal comparisons, either. If anything, it was their most *industrial* sounding album. Guitars had a hard cut sound, the drums were heavily saturated and spacey, plenty of use of samples and triggers, and Örjan Örnkloo's great synth work backed it all up. Not nu metal in the least.

06-17-2010, 12:21 AM	#11
CodyMTS jun jun jun Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Perth Posts: 42 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	soundtrack to your escape = Gain 10 Bass 10 Mids 0 Treble 10 Any scoop/contour switch on hahahaha MY BAND - Make Them Suffer (Symphonic Deathcore)

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CYBERSYN CYBERnetic SYNergy Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sunny Coast, Australia Posts: 5,372 Thanked: 33 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	OP, What cab do you have? I wen't on a chase looking for In Flames toanz. Like Drenzium said: Gibsons + EMGS + 5150 + Marshall 1960's Cabs. That's their tone in a nutshell man. Make a rule where, who ever messes up gets punched in the face. That is how I run my solo project. - Floppystrings Search this site by going to Google and adding site:sevenstring.org after your search word!

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