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Old 06-22-2006, 04:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Guitar processor advice needed for a non-gear-whore ;)

(Disclaimer: I am not an up-to-date-gear-head. Other than my guitar, most of my stuff is damn near 20 yrs old and I have very little knowledge of what's really out there nowadays. Some of the following info may sound silly or ignorant, so feel free to have a good laugh, but just try to go easy on an older fucker, ok? )

Despite money being tight, I'm wanting to get a new guitar processor, primarily for the need of using simultaneous effects. I'm actually quite content with my overall tone (coming from an old Scholtz Rockman Sustainor unit for gain, combined with a matching Scholtz equalizer), but I am really in need of the ability to have two additional effects at the same time (like chorus & flange together, etc).

For the past, oh let's say 20 years, I've been running the aforementioned distortion unit & eq into an old Digitech RPS 1900 for chorus, delay, etc ('Tis not my auction, but mine looks just like http://cgi.ebay.com/Digitech-RTS-190...QQcmdZViewItem ). And while I like how it sounds for the most part, I can't do simultaneous effects within the Digitech unit. I typically have it set with just a bit of delay for a doubling effect, which I then run separate outputs to two small practice amps for a fairly decent sounding stereo effect. But what I really lack is the ability to hit my footswitch and kick in a badass flanger (ala "Number of the Beast" intro) at the same time. Never bothered me too much in the past, but here lately, I find that it's driving me nuts.

Another little thing I'd love to have is the ability to set a delay to a specific digital number. One of my favorite things to play is "Dave's Party Piece", which Dave Weiner himself says "...use a delay set to 320 BPM". I can simulate it with my old Digitech's knobs, but it's damn hard to be accurate and who knows what the hell my actual BPM is. Takes a lot of frustrating trial & error to dial it in by ear. Plus I'd like to add in a little separate chorus at the same time as the delay, but as previously mentioned, not gonna happen with my current unit...

If money was not an issue, I guess I could just scoop up a Boss GT-8, or a Line 6 PODxt and be in heaven. But unfortunately, money is a huge obstacle at the moment, thus I find myself looking at things that others are likely not looking at....

Saw this http://www.americanmusical.com/item-...2_51_288.html# and liked the price, but I don't know much about such things, and I'm not sure it'd do what I'd like.

All tips & suggestions are welcome. If I can find something for less than $100 (maybe $150), then I'd like to get it. If it's more than that, it's really gonna have to wait.

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Old 06-22-2006, 04:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow, a Rockman..... That was the first "effects" device i ever owned, nice to see someone else here who digs it.

To answer question, I find this floorboard quite underrated:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

This falls somewhere between a Pod 2.0 and an XT, it runs stereo, and the effects are GORGEOUS. It's more recent incaranation is the AX1500G, but the differences seem mostly cosmetic, and it pushes you over the 100$ price tag.
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Old 06-23-2006, 03:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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A used AX1500G would be a good investment. I have one myself. The beauty of them is everything is switchable from the face of the unit, so there's no menu scrolling to switch off a cabinet model for instance, just hit a button on the front. The effects are useable, not top quality but certainly very good for the price, and you can get some nice tones from it should you wish to use it as your preamp too.
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Old 06-23-2006, 04:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Wow man, you are old skool! Ever thought about nabbing a Behringer V-Amp 2? Cheap, and pretty damn good.
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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To answer question, I find this floorboard quite underrated:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Damn... that auction had ended by the time I saw it, and it looks like it went for a much lower price than the other similar auctions that are still active. Those AX1500G's look nice, too. I'd like to find one of those for a really good price.
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Ever thought about nabbing a Behringer V-Amp 2? Cheap, and pretty damn good.
Wow, the price is certainly right on that thing. Will it allow me to have one effect going and then stomp another one in on top of it? How about setting a specific delay bpm?

Thanks for the responses, guys. Hopefully I can scoop up something along these lines pretty shortly.
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What about a few boss pedals?? What do you want besides delay?

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Old 06-23-2006, 02:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What about a few boss pedals?? What do you want besides delay?
Well, at the very least, I wanna be able to have a chorus, with the option to add in an additional delay. And sometimes I might want to drop in a flanger for a few bars, too. I suppose I could do all that by simply getting 3 separate 9-volt using stomp boxes, and chain 'em all together, but I would prefer to have the same options w/more (possible noise gate, other options, effects, etc) all contained in one unit. I just wasn't really sure what all is "out there" currently (especially in my price range), and thought I'd take a chance of someone here saying, "Sounds like this (fill in the blank) is just what you're lookin' for."

That Behringer V-Amp 2 looks like it might do nicely, but I'd just like to confirm it'll do what I'm lookin' for.
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Im not sure if you can use multiple modulation effects at once with the v amp
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my ART Xtreme Plus sorta did that. it had preset affects patches that you could assign to banks that you'd access with an UP and DOWN buttons. reverb, delay, chorus, flange, etc. though, it's all preset. you can change the level, drive, wet/dry, and EQ stuff, but that's it.

not bad for $100, with three amp models. i used mine for several years before i got my G-Major. it's a bit noisy, but you can't notice too much on a not-so-high gain amp

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You can download manuals directly from the Behringer site, seems the best way to get accurate specs. I'm not too sure if it would do what you want
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