Peavey 5150 vs. Peavey XXX

jaredowty · 06-19-2006, 03:08 AM

Alright guys...so I'm going all tube, and I'm wondering with what I should go with. I'm starting a variety metal band, we're gonna play a mix of thrash, power, prog, and metalcore. There's a guy that's selling a barely used 5150 stack for $700, which is a killer deal, but I really do still want a clean channel, and I heard that the Triple XXX is a lot tighter and more defined in the distortion. I like tight and defined, because I play a lot of rhythms where I need the picking nice and articulate. So far:

5150:
Pros:
Awesome price for the used one I'm looking at
Incredible distortion with lots of gain and cuts really well

Cons:
Horrid clean channel

XXX:
Pros:
Also a very good price
3 channels
Good clean channel

Cons:
More expensive, and I've only played it once a long time ago at a very low volume.

Any opinions? Sorry if this thread is n00bish.

-jared

JPMDan · 06-19-2006, 03:16 AM

if you use the clean channel then eliminate the 5150 out of your choices, also you should broaden up your choices of amps too.

jaredowty · 06-19-2006, 03:20 AM

True, but I've only got a budget of $1000 for a head, and I haven't seen any good tube heads for metal other than the Peaveys and the Carvin V3...

Brord · 06-19-2006, 03:29 AM

I think that the 5150's clean channel is really underrated. It's not THAT bad you know. I played 'em for quite some time with emg's and the sound was actually pretty nice. 5150 vs xxx wouldn't be a dilemma for me, 5150 all the way, without a doubt.

urklvt · 06-19-2006, 04:55 AM

I agree, you need to broaden your choices.
The 5150 is no 1 trick pony, but it may not suit you for the type of variety you're looking for.
The XXX is way cleaner on the clean end, and yes, the gain is more tight, but it may also not have the variety you need.

Try out the JSX, the XXL (you might be surprised by this one even though it is solid state), and some people swear by the Ibanez Thermion. Also, if you can get a Mesa Mark 4 on ebay... mmmmmmmm

All that being said, if I knew someone who was selling a 5150 stack for $700 I would buy it right away, which is what you should do.

Donnie · 06-19-2006, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urklvt

All that being said, if I knew someone who was selling a 5150 stack for $700 I would buy it right away, which is what you should do.

Yeah... that deal is pretty damn hard to beat.

LordOVchaoS · 06-19-2006, 08:00 AM

I vote for you buying this guy's Peavey Ultra Plus. It's the father of the XXX and to me it sounds even better (this is coming from a guy that loves XXX's).

urklvt · 06-19-2006, 08:12 AM

Hey, we've brought this up before. The Ultra Plus is a freakin' awesome amp. I had it with 2 412 cabs and ran the line out into a Peavey Basic 60 bass amp with the highs rolled off. FAT, FAT, FAT tone with the BBE. The thing is badass dude. The only gripe I ever had was that, to me at least, it sounded worse as I turned it up. Bear in mind that I never used anything other than stock tubes so I know I never let it live up to its potential while I had it.

Seriously, +1 un the Ultra Plus!

noodles · 06-19-2006, 11:59 AM

The clean channel on the XXX is quite awful. It is the most sterile, lifeless clean I have ever heard.

Jason · 06-19-2006, 12:14 PM

Buy the 5150 worst case you don't like it sell it. Then buy the xxx.

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06-19-2006, 03:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
jaredowty ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Missoula, Montana Posts: 443 Real Name: Jared Main Seven: None currently Rig: None currently. Thanked: 6	Peavey 5150 vs. Peavey XXX Alright guys...so I'm going all tube, and I'm wondering with what I should go with. I'm starting a variety metal band, we're gonna play a mix of thrash, power, prog, and metalcore. There's a guy that's selling a barely used 5150 stack for $700, which is a killer deal, but I really do still want a clean channel, and I heard that the Triple XXX is a lot tighter and more defined in the distortion. I like tight and defined, because I play a lot of rhythms where I need the picking nice and articulate. So far: 5150: Pros: Awesome price for the used one I'm looking at Incredible distortion with lots of gain and cuts really well Cons: Horrid clean channel XXX: Pros: Also a very good price 3 channels Good clean channel Cons: More expensive, and I've only played it once a long time ago at a very low volume. Any opinions? Sorry if this thread is n00bish. -jared http://www.myspace.com/jaredowty

06-19-2006, 04:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
urklvt This is my alt Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leesville, LA Posts: 2,434 Real Name: urk Main Seven: 28.625" S7420 Main ERG: 30 fret 5ths tuned 7 Rig: Mesa Mark IV Thanked: 4 / 1	I agree, you need to broaden your choices. The 5150 is no 1 trick pony, but it may not suit you for the type of variety you're looking for. The XXX is way cleaner on the clean end, and yes, the gain is more tight, but it may also not have the variety you need. Try out the JSX, the XXL (you might be surprised by this one even though it is solid state), and some people swear by the Ibanez Thermion. Also, if you can get a Mesa Mark 4 on ebay... mmmmmmmm All that being said, if I knew someone who was selling a 5150 stack for $700 I would buy it right away, which is what you should do. "Dude, you need to find the right fucking meds to be on, because you are the most unstable person I know."

06-19-2006, 08:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
LordOVchaoS NUDE MAN! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrensburg, MO Posts: 3,949 Real Name: Joe Main Seven: Xiphos 7-string+blackouts Rig: Engl SE->Vader Thanked: 55	I vote for you buying this guy's Peavey Ultra Plus. It's the father of the XXX and to me it sounds even better (this is coming from a guy that loves XXX's). www.bodenhamer-electronics.com the official gain merchant of sevenstring.org.

06-19-2006, 11:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
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06-19-2006, 03:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
JPMDan Dis fuckin' guy... Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Posts: 5,541 Real Name: Dan Main Seven: Conklin GTG-7T Rig: A. Reactor 112+PodXT Thanked: 42	if you use the clean channel then eliminate the 5150 out of your choices, also you should broaden up your choices of amps too.

06-19-2006, 03:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
jaredowty ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Missoula, Montana Posts: 443 Real Name: Jared Main Seven: None currently Rig: None currently. Thanked: 6	True, but I've only got a budget of $1000 for a head, and I haven't seen any good tube heads for metal other than the Peaveys and the Carvin V3...

06-19-2006, 03:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
Brord Furor Teutonicus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nederland Posts: 265 Real Name: Brord Main Seven: RG7620 - emg 81-7/707 Rig: Triple Rectifier Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I think that the 5150's clean channel is really underrated. It's not THAT bad you know. I played 'em for quite some time with emg's and the sound was actually pretty nice. 5150 vs xxx wouldn't be a dilemma for me, 5150 all the way, without a doubt.

06-19-2006, 08:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
urklvt This is my alt Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leesville, LA Posts: 2,434 Real Name: urk Main Seven: 28.625" S7420 Main ERG: 30 fret 5ths tuned 7 Rig: Mesa Mark IV Thanked: 4 / 1	Hey, we've brought this up before. The Ultra Plus is a freakin' awesome amp. I had it with 2 412 cabs and ran the line out into a Peavey Basic 60 bass amp with the highs rolled off. FAT, FAT, FAT tone with the BBE. The thing is badass dude. The only gripe I ever had was that, to me at least, it sounded worse as I turned it up. Bear in mind that I never used anything other than stock tubes so I know I never let it live up to its potential while I had it. Seriously, +1 un the Ultra Plus!

06-19-2006, 12:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jason Sign Your Neg Rep Posts! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South of the rats mouth.. Posts: 9,230 Real Name: Jason Main Seven: Esp/Ltd H207 :D Rig: Nadda Supreme Thanked: 78	Buy the 5150 worst case you don't like it sell it. Then buy the xxx. http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/gea...brand-new.html "I wish TV had a knob so you could turn up the intelligence. The one marked Brightness doesn't work." Gallagher

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