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Unread 04-27-2010, 12:18 AM   #251
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Those vids sound great. I should be getting my unit next weekend. I was talking to the owner the other day so I just have to meet him and get it when he's back in town.
Anyone used a bass through the preamp? I'm going to be playing bass in a covers band soon and I don't have any powerful bass amp but I have a cab and some poweramps, I just need a nice preamp or a head to go with them. I was hoping this digitech will be upto the task.
I would use one of the Bassman models, the Sunn, or the 2101 clean tube. The former I've heard basses played through the real amps, the later because it's a pretty neutral clean.
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Unread 04-28-2010, 09:06 AM   #252
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Thanks for the advice regarding using a bass through it. I think I'll give it a chance and see what I can get from it, my bass tone wouldn't need to be very demanding as I'm not planning on using too many effects with it for that. I might just save up and get a dedicated bass head if the band starts getting gigs but this setup should get me through some practices.
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Are the cab sims always on for the Mixer Outs? If so, which sim is used if you're on a patch that does not include a cab?

I'm thinking about getting another 1101 and rackmounting my IIC+ with it (or just building a new headshell with a rack space in the bottom for the 1101).
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Is there noone else with a GSP 1101 that's controlling it with a VL Ground Control Pro? I am now into week 3 and I still cannot figure this shit out! Digitech's support is not answering my questions, the mustbebeta forum has yielded 0 answers and every other forum I've posted in there's been little to no repsonse!

1.) I cannot get my Expression pedal to work for the Whammy when using an Instant Access button.
2.) When I call up change presets from one preset (Rivera clean w/ GSP 1101 detune + reverb effects) to the next (dry rhythm - Rivera Ch.3) the GSP 1101 effects are not disengaging? DO I need to create a 'bypass' preset??
3.) When in my first bank, I cannot access any of my other IA switches??Digitech tells me that they're not Global, so how do I go about linking each effect into the bank I'm in?
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who here has experience with the 2120? cause someone wants to trade it for my mesa DC-5 i dont think the 2120 is worth that much tho lol
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who here has experience with the 2120? cause someone wants to trade it for my mesa DC-5 i dont think the 2120 is worth that much tho lol
It's not. They're worth around $300.
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Unread 05-02-2010, 06:39 PM   #257
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It's not. They're worth around $300.
hmm yea not happening then :P
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Unread 05-02-2010, 07:36 PM   #258
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Thanks for the advice regarding using a bass through it. I think I'll give it a chance and see what I can get from it, my bass tone wouldn't need to be very demanding as I'm not planning on using too many effects with it for that. I might just save up and get a dedicated bass head if the band starts getting gigs but this setup should get me through some practices.
Heres a tip....if you got the latest MustBeBeta C48 firmware, try the Digitech Dark Metal model with the gain about 30-45%. Yeilds a surprisingly fat, bass overdrive tone...I really dig it!

I also got a patch using a Fuzz and a Marshall JCM900 model with a dab of Boss CH-1 chorus, and CS-2 Compression....stumbled on this one on accident, and it nails that Peter Steele bass tone

The Orange model and of course, the Fender Bassman model work great for bass too.

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So, I'm shopping around for a poweramp to match with my GSP and I have come across a pretty good deal on a Crown XLS 602. Anyone have any input on this thing?
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Just wanted to say thanks for the info on this product. I picked up a gsp1101 a few days ago and have been reading what people thought about it. From this thread, it appears everyone is pretty happy with it!
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Does anyone on here have some particularly good metal patches they'd like to share? I've only had this for a few days. I want to see what she's capable of.

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Unread 05-15-2010, 07:06 PM   #262
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I got to practice with my bass through it in a band situation. I was pushing it though a solid state power amp and it did a really great job. I had enough options to let me get a nice fat bass sound. I was pretty happy as now I don't have to go pick up my own bass amp!

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I'd also be interested in seeing some metal patches people have made and liked. I haven't had too much time to spend tweaking mine for guitar yet but if I can get a better tone from it than my e530 than it's going into my rack for guitar too.
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Unread 05-15-2010, 07:21 PM   #263
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I should probably talk to Joe about his patches. I'm also looking to mimic my SE tone via the GSP.

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Unread 05-16-2010, 05:35 PM   #264
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Just ordered a B-stock from AMS for $400 on their payment plan. Now I'm struggling with the idea of whether I'm selling my MP-1 or not. I just did the Mod 3.1 on it (5150/Recto/Slo). Just got tired of fighting my GT3 and ADA together with patch volumes, so the Boss is up for a $100 on craigs. Really cant wait to have an all in one solution plus recording ability.

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Man I am completing loving the sounds on this unit. I wish I would have grabbed this earlier.

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since i am very impatient for saving up for an axe fx i tought hmm maybe a GSP 1101 and sell my mesa so a few questions

1.will it do old school thrash tones
2.death metal
3.black metal
4.i dont play a meshuggah alot but sometimes for the funneh so can it djent?
5.hows the reverb? i like MAASSSIVE reverb like the cavernous reverb from line6
6.does it has a harmonizer?
7.will this power amp work and sound decent since i am poor as shite THE T.AMP E400 - Dutch International Cyberstore

thanks in advance =)

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This thing is amazing. I cant imagine what you cant do with it. You should be able to pull off old thrash with the JCM 800/900 models, I havent delved to far into the 5150 model but at first listen sounds pretty good. I'm currently loving the Dual Rec for my rythm patches and the Triple Rec for leads. The 2101 Clean Tube is working great for my clean patch, but I am going to work with the AC15 and twin models this weekend.

One thing I noticed in the I/O setup, setting it to SS Stack got me more bite and clarity. That only makes sense though, since I'm using a Velocity 250 for power. If you're not able to pony up for a tube power amp, I recommend the Rocktron or one of the old Hafler or Tube Works units, since they are voiced for guitar and have pres. and resonance controls.

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This thing is amazing. I cant imagine what you cant do with it. You should be able to pull off old thrash with the JCM 800/900 models, I havent delved to far into the 5150 model but at first listen sounds pretty good. I'm currently loving the Dual Rec for my rythm patches and the Triple Rec for leads. The 2101 Clean Tube is working great for my clean patch, but I am going to work with the AC15 and twin models this weekend.

One thing I noticed in the I/O setup, setting it to SS Stack got me more bite and clarity. That only makes sense though, since I'm using a Velocity 250 for power. If you're not able to pony up for a tube power amp, I recommend the Rocktron or one of the old Hafler or Tube Works units, since they are voiced for guitar and have pres. and resonance controls.
so the gsp doesnt have a poweramp simulator ? that pretty much ruins my plan then since if i get the gsp and cab i have about 150 euros left if my current amp sells :P maybe with some luck i can fetch the gsp and poweramp used.

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^ I don't think it does, which doesn't mean you can't plug it straight into the PA.

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since i am very impatient for saving up for an axe fx i tought hmm maybe a GSP 1101 and sell my mesa so a few questions

1.will it do old school thrash tones
2.death metal
3.black metal
4.i dont play a meshuggah alot but sometimes for the funneh so can it djent?
5.hows the reverb? i like MAASSSIVE reverb like the cavernous reverb from line6
6.does it has a harmonizer?
7.will this power amp work and sound decent since i am poor as shite THE T.AMP E400 - Dutch International Cyberstore

thanks in advance =)
1 - 4 are subjective but probably yes if you tweak it enough.
5. good
6. yes but its totally defective
7. yes

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I bought one when it came out, didn't like it with my Marshall's but got it again and it really sharpens up my TSL. What was I thinking back then????

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So people aren't liking the Mesa's now? Maybe they sound good to me cause I'm running through this massive 412 bass cab, lol. Maybe the extra brightness is necessary. Another great thing is you can change the amp model without having to start over tweaking the PEQ, amp EQ, and post EQ.

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Mesa is like Soldano, a large part of the tone is the poweramp, I have a mesa 20/20 poweramp and it sounds pretty great to me but it's not exactly the same as a Triple Rec, the poweramp in a triple is awesome.

There is a certain amount of poweramp modelling in the GSP1101 but it is nothing like an Axe FX from what I have read of it. I often switch between my 20/20 and my PA rig and I set the GSP1101 accordingly, I have also tried a number of different settings and there is definitely some poweramp modelling in there which varies according to the setup you choose but it is not accurate enough to sound just like the real thing when you run direct through a PA, to be honest I'm not sure it would be possible but I imagine the Axe FX poweramp modelling is far superior to the GSP1101.


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Hey there guys!

Treated myself to a GSP1101 unit at last :



It rocks, running it through the FX Return of an old Ibanez Bass combo i have laying around. It rocks, bypassing the EQ on that amp helped a lot! (plugging it in the input of the amp made it almost impossible getting some mean tones out of it). I will be connecting this to an external poweramp, like a Mesa 20/20 or VHT 2/50/2, preferably connected to a custom cab I'll be building myself this summer out of Maple.


Playing around with this unit tought me that the EQ's, no matter Pre-EQ or P-EQ are very very important. There are two build in the GSP unit (3 if you count the global EQ, but it's purpose is not preset based) and these arent really that in depth (3-band, could be greater). To help shape the sound aside from the build in EQ's, you could hook up one of these:


Behringer Ultragraph PRO FBQ1502 Dual 15-band Graphic Equalizer (Shit thats a mouthfull...)

It has dual 15-band graphic EQ's, which is perfect because you can run one in front of the amp, and the other after the amp. This has been done already, probably, but this could be a real helpful tool running aside the GSP.

Also, these are dirt cheap, around €75 or $90~100. Question is, will this work the way I said?
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Practiced friday with mine. The Dual Rec sounded good just jamming, but once we got under way with the other guitar/bass/drums I quickly found my way flipping thru models finding something that would cut better. I definately need a better understanding of the EQ after the preamp. The global I pretty much set 6 6 6 and tried to keep the gain at 70 or a little below. Maybe its this huge cab I'm using, but I kinda like it cause its smooth and deep sounding and hard to dial in harsh like the Peavey I had.

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