Steinberger Gearless Tuners? - Page 3

ghoti · 04-27-2009, 07:04 PM

Someone on here could order 7 packs of these; and distribute them to whoever needs them...for a fee of course...

ghoti · 05-01-2009, 01:48 AM

Are there also gearless tuners for bass? I did a search and came up with nothing.

I'm thinking that if there were, one could kill two birds with one stone here; order 4 sets of the 6-string and one of a 4-string bass. Total = 4 sets of 7-string tuners, one of which can take the heavier gauge of the lower strings.

hufschmid · 05-17-2009, 10:12 AM

I thought you may appreciate a little pic story about how those tuners work....

So I took some pics when I was changing the strings....

I like to cut my strings to lenght, because i dont like when a guitar needs a hair cut

So here I've unscrewed the tuners on the bottom and top...

Now the string has to be cut a little bit after the tuner, just enough to pull it in decently...

Now pull it inside the hole...

Tighten the top, this will lock the string down in place...

Now on the back, tune up the string to pitch...
The string will be aspired into the tuning machine....

This is how it looks like, nice and clean...

Top view
When installing, the tuners can be moved in correct position so that the strings go nicely true them without any angle...

yingmin · 05-17-2009, 11:14 AM

My store recently got a GOTM Gibson V with gearless tuners. They're pretty awesome.

lcsdds · 05-24-2009, 05:51 PM

All my guitars use these tuners and I have NEVER had to solder anything. I don't know where that comes from. I moses graphite necks with and Ibanez shaped headstock and a ZR trem. These tuners are awesome....I highly reccomend them. Also the 40:1 tuning ratio doesn't make string changes a PITA.....it simplifies them.

Fikealox · 05-24-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caughtinamosh

Banjo players are swine... I have no desire to have any dealings with them .

lmao

yacker · 08-18-2009, 12:49 PM

I know I'm bumping an old thread but I was wondering if any of the users of these tuners know if these can be drilled to hold higher gauge strings?

Scali · 08-18-2009, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren

Gibson uses these tuners on the Epiphone Firebird Studio... as far as i know, that's the only other production guitar to use them. And i'd be surprised if Gibson recommended soldering the strings at the twist on a fixed bridge guitar. I'm pretty sure it's just a trem thing.

Gibson also used them on the M-III/M-IV series back in the mid-90s (along with a Steinberger tremolo).
Why Gibson, some might ask? Gibson bought Steinberger around that time.
My M-III is an earlier model, so I have regular tuners and a Schaller FR trem.

hufschmid · 08-19-2009, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yacker

I know I'm bumping an old thread but I was wondering if any of the users of these tuners know if these can be drilled to hold higher gauge strings?

No they cant, the string is aspired inside the tuner, there is not enough room for a bigger guage then a .60

yingmin · 08-19-2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hufschmid

No they cant, the string is aspired inside the tuner, there is not enough room for a bigger guage then a .60

I'm not really sure what you think "aspire" means, but it's not this.

hufschmid · 08-19-2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yingmin

I'm not really sure what you think "aspire" means, but it's not this.

1) i'm sorry I dont speak english all the time

2) here is the picture, aspiration ......

maybe if I say... it's being sucked inside it, would this help?

yacker · 08-19-2009, 11:35 AM

Thanks for the info.....kinda disappointing, but what can you do.

hufschmid · 08-19-2009, 11:38 AM

Its more of a physical issue, they probably did not think about building them for extended range instruments the day they designed them

Dee Jay Drugs · 06-25-2010, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hufschmid

Its more of a physical issue, they probably did not think about building them for extended range instruments the day they designed them

Anyone try using these on a flat, non pitched headstock? Can the need for a string tree be avoided?

Durero · 06-25-2010, 08:06 PM

Depends on the specific dimensions of your headstock and nut height and how much downwards angle you want. The strings go to the very bottom of the assembly when you tune so if any tuner design will allow you to avoid string trees these would.

mgcasella · 07-31-2010, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hufschmid

No they cant, the string is aspired inside the tuner, there is not enough room for a bigger guage then a .60

I hate to bump an old thread BUT...

Is it possible to just unwind the string in order to get it through the .60 hole (just like you would with a standard tuner)?

Or is this not possible because I'm over-simplifying things or missed something?

I need to know because I may order these for my MM5 OLP baritone

Durero · 07-31-2010, 04:03 AM

Yes that will certainly work. I've used that method before.

mgcasella · 07-31-2010, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durero

Yes that will certainly work. I've used that method before.

Sweet! Thanks!

04-27-2009, 07:04 PM	#51
ghoti Electric Eclectic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mill Valley, CA Posts: 355 Thanked: 10	Someone on here could order 7 packs of these; and distribute them to whoever needs them...for a fee of course... __________________ When you really want to get down to the honest to God truth and you want to make someone laugh or cry, it’s still the guitar...It’s a psychiatrist, a maid, a prostitute, it’s everything. --Les Paul

05-01-2009, 01:48 AM	#52
ghoti Electric Eclectic Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mill Valley, CA Posts: 355 Thanked: 10	Are there also gearless tuners for bass? I did a search and came up with nothing. I'm thinking that if there were, one could kill two birds with one stone here; order 4 sets of the 6-string and one of a 4-string bass. Total = 4 sets of 7-string tuners, one of which can take the heavier gauge of the lower strings. __________________ When you really want to get down to the honest to God truth and you want to make someone laugh or cry, it’s still the guitar...It’s a psychiatrist, a maid, a prostitute, it’s everything. --Les Paul

05-17-2009, 11:14 AM	#54
yingmin Parker über alles Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,162 Thanked: 4	My store recently got a GOTM Gibson V with gearless tuners. They're pretty awesome. __________________ I have a problem cn this mod ke the eicoli and the infantry cn a blow dies what can make? excused for the errors but are Italian

06-25-2010, 08:06 PM	#65
Durero prototyping... Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 4,437 Thanked: 40	Depends on the specific dimensions of your headstock and nut height and how much downwards angle you want. The strings go to the very bottom of the assembly when you tune so if any tuner design will allow you to avoid string trees these would. __________________ Alpha Trion Gamelan Gita Asmara

07-31-2010, 04:03 AM	#67
Durero prototyping... Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 4,437 Thanked: 40	Yes that will certainly work. I've used that method before. __________________ Alpha Trion Gamelan Gita Asmara

05-17-2009, 10:12 AM	#53
hufschmid Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: switzerland Posts: 9,137 Thanked: 287	I thought you may appreciate a little pic story about how those tuners work.... So I took some pics when I was changing the strings.... I like to cut my strings to lenght, because i dont like when a guitar needs a hair cut So here I've unscrewed the tuners on the bottom and top... Now the string has to be cut a little bit after the tuner, just enough to pull it in decently... Now pull it inside the hole... Tighten the top, this will lock the string down in place... Now on the back, tune up the string to pitch... The string will be aspired into the tuning machine.... This is how it looks like, nice and clean... Top view When installing, the tuners can be moved in correct position so that the strings go nicely true them without any angle...

05-24-2009, 05:51 PM	#55
lcsdds Fag Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Homoland Posts: 13 Thanked: 2 / 1	All my guitars use these tuners and I have NEVER had to solder anything. I don't know where that comes from. I moses graphite necks with and Ibanez shaped headstock and a ZR trem. These tuners are awesome....I highly reccomend them. Also the 40:1 tuning ratio doesn't make string changes a PITA.....it simplifies them.

08-18-2009, 12:49 PM	#57
yacker ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Salem, Va Posts: 594 Thanked: 3	I know I'm bumping an old thread but I was wondering if any of the users of these tuners know if these can be drilled to hold higher gauge strings?

08-19-2009, 11:35 AM	#62
yacker ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Salem, Va Posts: 594 Thanked: 3	Thanks for the info.....kinda disappointing, but what can you do.

08-19-2009, 11:38 AM	#63
hufschmid Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: switzerland Posts: 9,137 Thanked: 287	Its more of a physical issue, they probably did not think about building them for extended range instruments the day they designed them

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