sevenstring guitars   sevenstring registry   photo gallery 
Sevenstring.org - The Seven String Guitar Authority
home groups register
Go Back  
 
User: 
Pass:  
Gear & Equipment - Discussions on Racks, Amps, Cabinets, Tube vs. Solid State debates, effects processors, etc.
Welcome to sevenstring.org! You are currently viewing the site as a guest which gives you limited access to most features.
Most ad placements do not show to registered members. Register Now!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-22-2007, 11:09 AM   #1
7 Dying Trees
Sarcy English Twat
 
7 Dying Trees's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: 7th Ethereal Plane of interstellar hell, Innit Bruv, Safe, London, UK
Posts: 8,413
Thanked: 127
7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.
Has anyone ever tried building their own amp?

Am curious, as valve amps are inherently simple, and trying to figure out whether I should give myself a pet project to do for a while to see what I can build and if I can make something that doesn't sound like utter turd!
__________________
The Chaos has come:
www.chaosanct.com
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 11:10 AM   #2
7 Dying Trees
Sarcy English Twat
 
7 Dying Trees's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: 7th Ethereal Plane of interstellar hell, Innit Bruv, Safe, London, UK
Posts: 8,413
Thanked: 127
7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.7 Dying Trees won't break the oath.
Also, where would one start when thinking about this?
__________________
The Chaos has come:
www.chaosanct.com
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 11:22 AM   #3
s7eve
KILL BOT
Super Moderator
 
s7eve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Agnes Water, Qld, Australia
Posts: 6,325
Thanked: 70
s7eve is deemed true.s7eve is deemed true.s7eve is deemed true.s7eve is deemed true.s7eve is deemed true.s7eve is deemed true.s7eve is deemed true.s7eve is deemed true.s7eve is deemed true.s7eve is deemed true.s7eve is deemed true.
I don't know but I found this.

Building Your Own Tube Amp
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 11:31 AM   #4
budda
Guiterrorizer
 
budda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London ONT
Posts: 15,484
Thanked: 132
budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.
AX84.com - The Cooperative Tube Guitar Amp Project

you're welcome.
__________________
Resident counsellor-in-training, awesome dude, and all around nice guy
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 11:50 AM   #5
neroceasar
DEATHMETAL!!!!!!!!!
 
neroceasar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: grand rapids, mi
Posts: 395
Thanked: 10
neroceasar is just really niceneroceasar is just really nice
yeah the ax84 is the best place to start. It will cost around $200-$400 depending on amp and parts. Doberman Music Products sells great kits based off of the original ax84 designs. If you ever want to get into building and designing tube amps go here London Power Tube Amplifiers, Tube Amp Books, Tube Amp Kits and pick up a few books by Kevin O'Connor, they're basically the bible(s) of tube amp theory.
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 12:55 PM   #6
cgibsong001
ss.org Regular
 
cgibsong001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 41
Thanked: 0
cgibsong001 will become famous soon enough
hey i was also thinking about this. i'm going to go to college next year for most likely business/electronics, which is a course very similar to electrical engineering with some additional business courses. will these electrical courses give me the necessary theory to be able to build my own amps and stuff?
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 03:52 PM   #7
ibznorange
Chief Officer/RHLC ©
 
ibznorange's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 8,328
Thanked: 59
ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.
you can get wiring diagrams on orangeforum.com of lots of orange heads, including a high gain model, i think the rockerverb 50.
bluesbreaker diagrams are fairly common, as are 100w superlead diagrams.
from there its pretty much a board and soldering components together. the only real "hard" part should be biasing the tubes
__________________
Reverse Headstocks or Bust

ALL HEIL THE ADMINISHREDDER!
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 04:03 PM   #8
sakeido
Is a Pastafarian
 
sakeido's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary AB
Posts: 4,867
Thanked: 248
sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.
There are a lot of kits out there to build SLO-100 clones as well, but I've also heard a lot of people saying that building your own tube amp is much more expensive than you would think.

Personally though, I want to do it as well, just to make the kind of tube amp I have always wanted... 50x2 watt head so you can run stereo effects without needing a second power amp.
__________________
_________________________
"Ah, she's built like a steakhouse but she handles like a bistro" - ZB
My Soundclick Page
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 04:51 PM   #9
ibznorange
Chief Officer/RHLC ©
 
ibznorange's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 8,328
Thanked: 59
ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.
lol. i like that idea. but id do dual 100watters.
200 watts of loud!
note that this necessitates a hotplate
__________________
Reverse Headstocks or Bust

ALL HEIL THE ADMINISHREDDER!
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 07:07 PM   #10
Stitch
Banned
 
Stitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Posts: 7,906
Thanked: 126
Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.Stitch deems you false, flexes, and cancels you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibznorange View Post
lol. i like that idea. but id do dual 100watters.
200 watts of loud!
note that this necessitates a hotplate


Two hotplates.
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 07:11 PM   #11
OzzyC
:ubersquint:
 
OzzyC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 3,390
Thanked: 17
OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.OzzyC can play Erotomania with his toes.
I'd be kind of leery of taking on something like this, mostly due to the energy that can be stored and unleashed upon an unsuspecting arm/ finger/ nose/ toe/ tounge/ leg/ wenis/ etc...
__________________

You've got your head down
You've got your eyes closed
You look so pitiful now

Your body encrusted with ash
Breath heavy with toxins
Hair singed and matted
Clothes frayed and burnt

You are left with nothing
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 07:19 PM   #12
eleven59
Free Agent
 
eleven59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 7,739
Thanked: 149
eleven59 is deemed true by Crom himselfeleven59 is deemed true by Crom himselfeleven59 is deemed true by Crom himselfeleven59 is deemed true by Crom himselfeleven59 is deemed true by Crom himselfeleven59 is deemed true by Crom himselfeleven59 is deemed true by Crom himselfeleven59 is deemed true by Crom himselfeleven59 is deemed true by Crom himselfeleven59 is deemed true by Crom himselfeleven59 is deemed true by Crom himselfeleven59 is deemed true by Crom himself
Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyC View Post
I'd be kind of leery of taking on something like this, mostly due to the energy that can be stored and unleashed upon an unsuspecting arm/ finger/ nose/ toe/ tounge/ leg/ wenis/ etc...
Wenis Yeah, I know someone who built his own tube amp (never saw/heard it) and apparently electrocuted himself twice It was pretty much the first thing he told me the first time I met him
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 07:52 PM   #13
neroceasar
DEATHMETAL!!!!!!!!!
 
neroceasar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: grand rapids, mi
Posts: 395
Thanked: 10
neroceasar is just really niceneroceasar is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by cgibsong001 View Post
hey i was also thinking about this. i'm going to go to college next year for most likely business/electronics, which is a course very similar to electrical engineering with some additional business courses. will these electrical courses give me the necessary theory to be able to build my own amps and stuff?
I plan on going into this field also and i've done a lot of research. The best plan i am going to take is ITT tech. Though they don't teach you vintage electronics it gives a very good base electrical circuitry knowledge. there are no schools(that i've found in the last year) that are are for guitar amplifiers. there are how ever many short courses from amp people like Kevin O'Connor. PICK UP THE BOOK "THE ULTIMATE TONE" by Kevin O'Connor! ITS LIKE THE BIBLE FOR AMPLIFIERS! OHH and yes SAFETY FIRST!
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 07:59 PM   #14
budda
Guiterrorizer
 
budda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London ONT
Posts: 15,484
Thanked: 132
budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.budda is pretty much the man.
or sign up for the engater? amp building course..?
__________________
Resident counsellor-in-training, awesome dude, and all around nice guy
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 08:43 PM   #15
djpharoah
Ninja M.O.D.
Super Moderator
 
djpharoah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 8,001
Thanked: 258
djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.djpharoah is a happy camper.
I too have been pondering this since I stumbled onto this guy on youtube who makes like these hot 3-12W tube powered amps that range from plexi to mesa kinda stuff.
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 09:02 PM   #16
sakeido
Is a Pastafarian
 
sakeido's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary AB
Posts: 4,867
Thanked: 248
sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.sakeido can play Erotomania with his toes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibznorange View Post
lol. i like that idea. but id do dual 100watters.
200 watts of loud!
note that this necessitates a hotplate
what's the point of that? there is no practical usage for that in a guitar amp application. Full range hi-fi sound maybe.
__________________
_________________________
"Ah, she's built like a steakhouse but she handles like a bistro" - ZB
My Soundclick Page
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 09:02 PM   #17
garcia3441
Tone Whore
 
garcia3441's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 5,439
Thanked: 88
garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.
I want to eventually.
__________________
"Im sick and tired of hearing things
From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth. "
John Lennon
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 09:06 PM   #18
ibznorange
Chief Officer/RHLC ©
 
ibznorange's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 8,328
Thanked: 59
ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.ibznorange is pretty much the man.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stitch View Post


Two hotplates.
it necessitates a hot2plates
better?
__________________
Reverse Headstocks or Bust

ALL HEIL THE ADMINISHREDDER!
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 09:13 PM   #19
garcia3441
Tone Whore
 
garcia3441's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 5,439
Thanked: 88
garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.garcia3441 is his own personal hero.
Quote:
Originally Posted by neroceasar View Post
I plan on going into this field also and i've done a lot of research. The best plan i am going to take is ITT tech. Though they don't teach you vintage electronics it gives a very good base electrical circuitry knowledge. there are no schools(that i've found in the last year) that are are for guitar amplifiers. there are how ever many short courses from amp people like Kevin O'Connor. PICK UP THE BOOK "THE ULTIMATE TONE" by Kevin O'Connor! ITS LIKE THE BIBLE FOR AMPLIFIERS! OHH and yes SAFETY FIRST!
Kendrick Amplifiers: Seminars
__________________
"Im sick and tired of hearing things
From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth. "
John Lennon
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 10:48 PM   #20
cgibsong001
ss.org Regular
 
cgibsong001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 41
Thanked: 0
cgibsong001 will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by neroceasar View Post
I plan on going into this field also and i've done a lot of research. The best plan i am going to take is ITT tech. Though they don't teach you vintage electronics it gives a very good base electrical circuitry knowledge. there are no schools(that i've found in the last year) that are are for guitar amplifiers. there are how ever many short courses from amp people like Kevin O'Connor. PICK UP THE BOOK "THE ULTIMATE TONE" by Kevin O'Connor! ITS LIKE THE BIBLE FOR AMPLIFIERS! OHH and yes SAFETY FIRST!
yeah i mean one of the classes that i'll be taking goes into amplifiers, but it most certainly won't be guitar amps. should be a good starting point though.
Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2007, 10:51 PM   #21
Zepp88
Arktanian Diplomat
 
Zepp88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: A Technological Deadzone
Posts: 10,362
Thanked: 92
Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.Zepp88 is the bastard son of Dio himself.
I've really been wanting to get into bulding custom guitar amps made for the needs of the player

It would be an aweome job.
Offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
valve amp, electrocution, design, building

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.