A good high gain 50 watt tube combo

eon_shift · 09-26-2007, 01:19 PM

under 1000 used is ok but ive come back down to earth and realized that 100 watt tube amp is to much for bedroom and basement jamming

Codyyy · 09-26-2007, 01:21 PM

What can I say - I love my Carvin V3. It's 100 watts, but it's switchable down to 50.

Krunch · 09-26-2007, 01:23 PM

How about a Mesa Rectoverb combo?

loktide · 09-26-2007, 01:29 PM

dude, there's not really much of a volume difference between 100W and 50W... perceived volume is logarithmic with respect to amplification power, so that you'll need 10 times more power to make it sound 2 times as loud. A 2x12 will also 'feel' louder than a 1x12 combo because of the greater speaker area. You'll also notice great volume differences between different 100W amps...
Volume should not be you're main criterion when chossing between 50W and 100W tube amps...

D-EJ915 · 09-26-2007, 01:59 PM

actually a 2x12 is 6dB louder than a 1x12 at the same "power" level...might be 3dB I don't remember.

Anyway, get a power attenuator

it'll fix you right up, I've got a 2xEL34 combo and it still blows me away.

playstopause · 09-26-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by D-EJ915

Anyway, get a power attenuator

it'll fix you right up, I've got a 2xEL34 combo and it still blows me away.

That's what you need.

Drew · 09-26-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Krunch

How about a Mesa Rectoverb combo?

Mine, with a Hot Plate, rules. It's maybe just beyond the upper limit you're looking at, but it's totally worth it.

budda · 09-26-2007, 06:08 PM

dare i mention to check out the traynor YCS50? might be worth looking into, i havent played one yet though.

jacksonplayer · 09-26-2007, 06:09 PM

You could probably get a used Rectoverb for under a grand. I've considered doing that myself.

DeL07 · 09-26-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by budda

dare i mention to check out the traynor YCS50? might be worth looking into, i havent played one yet though.

I don't believe that's a high-gain amp really....

I'd recommend a Randall V2!

Kakaka · 09-26-2007, 06:27 PM

-Mesa Nomad 45/55(Drew had one for aeons and got many nice tones out of that). Around 800 bucks used but I've found it on craiglist and e-bay for 650-750.
-Mesa F-50 (a huge sounding combo with great cleans and heavy distortion)
-B-52 AT-212 or AT-112.

Oh, not to mention MESA's DCs...

A little hellp with the Recto: FS: Mint Mesa Rectoverb Series II

Mesa Boogie Mark IV combo

Leon · 09-26-2007, 06:37 PM

Mesa Nomad 45 2x12. sounds great a low volumes, and when you need the volume, it's there on tap!

also comes with three useable channels, and a power voicing switch in the back, which really tightens things up (and increases the volume).

Kakaka · 09-26-2007, 07:00 PM

Okay, I know you'll build a genourmous pyramid in my honour for this...

Guitar Amps Mesa Rectoverb and Carvin X100B

Recto for less than 800 bucks!

Metal Ken · 09-26-2007, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loktide

dude, there's not really much of a volume difference between 100W and 50W... perceived volume is logarithmic with respect to amplification power, so that you'll need 10 times more power to make it sound 2 times as loud. A 2x12 will also 'feel' louder than a 1x12 combo because of the greater speaker area. You'll also notice great volume differences between different 100W amps...
Volume should not be you're main criterion when chossing between 50W and 100W tube amps...

But if you get a 50 watt instead of a 100 watt, you get power tube distortion earlier on.

Jeff · 09-26-2007, 10:00 PM

Mesa Rectoverb 1x12
Mesa MkIV
Engl Screamer 50

2x12 tube combos are too fucking heavy. Seriously, if you have one, you either have a cart, you're built like Hulk Hogan, or you have multiple hernias and/or hemmoroids from lifting that little fatty.

I'd give a testicle for a 1x12 50 or 60w JSX. Too bad they haven't listened to me and Darren.

Metal Ken · 09-26-2007, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff

2x12 tube combos are too fucking heavy.

Agreed. the 5150 i had was just shy of 100 lbs..

Jeff · 09-26-2007, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metal Ken

Agreed. the 5150 i had was just shy of 100 lbs..

That's why I kept with the head/2x12 cab combination, because at least then it's broken up into two pieces.

Well, that and the JSX combo is open back.

Metal Ken · 09-26-2007, 10:10 PM

You know what sucked? Carrying the 5150 up, then subsequently back down 3 flights of stairs by myself.

Thats the other thing i love about the DC3 i have. its like, roughly half the size and less than half the weight of my old 5150. Plus i got the anvil case with casters. Pushing amps = win.

budda · 09-26-2007, 11:08 PM

my 212 is like 65 lbs lol

Jongpil Yun · 09-27-2007, 02:54 AM

God I want a Mark IV. And so should you. 1x12 combos on eBay are around what, like $1000?

urklvt · 09-27-2007, 02:57 AM

Mark IVs suck....

hehe I LOVE mine!!!

astrocreep · 09-27-2007, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff

Mesa Rectoverb 1x12
Mesa MkIV
Engl Screamer 50

I'd give a testicle for a 1x12 50 or 60w JSX.

Have to agree with you about the 1x12 JSX, for the moment I'm making do with the Screamer 50 because Mesa's are a bit too pricy here in the UK.

The screamer is good and covers a lot of ground but I think I need to invest in a boost to tighten things up a bit.

09-26-2007, 01:19 PM	#1
eon_shift ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pickering, Ontario Posts: 263 Thanked: 3	A good high gain 50 watt tube combo under 1000 used is ok but ive come back down to earth and realized that 100 watt tube amp is to much for bedroom and basement jamming

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D-EJ915 <3's Tsukasa Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 18,638 Thanked: 218	actually a 2x12 is 6dB louder than a 1x12 at the same "power" level...might be 3dB I don't remember. Anyway, get a power attenuator it'll fix you right up, I've got a 2xEL34 combo and it still blows me away. __________________ əBCAir

09-26-2007, 06:08 PM	#8
budda Guiterrorizer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London ONT Posts: 15,484 Thanked: 132	dare i mention to check out the traynor YCS50? might be worth looking into, i havent played one yet though. __________________ Resident counsellor-in-training, awesome dude, and all around nice guy

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jacksonplayer The Fusion Guy! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 4,194 Thanked: 26	You could probably get a used Rectoverb for under a grand. I've considered doing that myself. __________________ Check out my home page: www.councilofone.net

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Kakaka I am with Jesus! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: São Paulo-Brazil Posts: 588 Thanked: 6	-Mesa Nomad 45/55(Drew had one for aeons and got many nice tones out of that). Around 800 bucks used but I've found it on craiglist and e-bay for 650-750. -Mesa F-50 (a huge sounding combo with great cleans and heavy distortion) -B-52 AT-212 or AT-112. Oh, not to mention MESA's DCs... A little hellp with the Recto: FS: Mint Mesa Rectoverb Series II Mesa Boogie Mark IV combo Last edited by Kakaka; 09-26-2007 at 06:36 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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09-26-2007, 01:23 PM	#3
Krunch Krunch SMASH Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fredericksburg, Va Posts: 449 Thanked: 7	How about a Mesa Rectoverb combo?

09-26-2007, 01:29 PM	#4
loktide Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 3,741 Thanked: 59	dude, there's not really much of a volume difference between 100W and 50W... perceived volume is logarithmic with respect to amplification power, so that you'll need 10 times more power to make it sound 2 times as loud. A 2x12 will also 'feel' louder than a 1x12 combo because of the greater speaker area. You'll also notice great volume differences between different 100W amps... Volume should not be you're main criterion when chossing between 50W and 100W tube amps...

09-26-2007, 06:37 PM	#12
Leon {##[====:::. • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nebula, Ohio Posts: 12,262 Thanked: 81	Mesa Nomad 45 2x12. sounds great a low volumes, and when you need the volume, it's there on tap! also comes with three useable channels, and a power voicing switch in the back, which really tightens things up (and increases the volume). __________________

09-26-2007, 07:00 PM	#13
Kakaka I am with Jesus! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: São Paulo-Brazil Posts: 588 Thanked: 6	Okay, I know you'll build a genourmous pyramid in my honour for this... Guitar Amps Mesa Rectoverb and Carvin X100B Recto for less than 800 bucks!

09-26-2007, 10:00 PM	#15
Jeff Banned from Reality Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,262 Thanked: 23	Mesa Rectoverb 1x12 Mesa MkIV Engl Screamer 50 2x12 tube combos are too fucking heavy. Seriously, if you have one, you either have a cart, you're built like Hulk Hogan, or you have multiple hernias and/or hemmoroids from lifting that little fatty. I'd give a testicle for a 1x12 50 or 60w JSX. Too bad they haven't listened to me and Darren.

09-26-2007, 10:10 PM	#18
Metal Ken Hates the Air • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 17,666 Thanked: 81	You know what sucked? Carrying the 5150 up, then subsequently back down 3 flights of stairs by myself. Thats the other thing i love about the DC3 i have. its like, roughly half the size and less than half the weight of my old 5150. Plus i got the anvil case with casters. Pushing amps = win. __________________ Since the Bible and the church are obviously mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust them to tell us where we are going? Didn't you say... Jesus was coming?

09-26-2007, 11:08 PM	#19
budda Guiterrorizer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London ONT Posts: 15,484 Thanked: 132	my 212 is like 65 lbs lol __________________ Resident counsellor-in-training, awesome dude, and all around nice guy

09-27-2007, 02:54 AM	#20
Jongpil Yun Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,339 Thanked: 27	God I want a Mark IV. And so should you. 1x12 combos on eBay are around what, like $1000? __________________ Whether it's laughable or irrational, this is the path that ALL great men walk! If there's a wall in our way, we'll destroy it! If there's no road, we'll pave it with our own hands! The magma in our hearts is blazing like flames! Who the hell do you think we are?

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urklvt Words under my name Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leesville, LA Posts: 2,511 Thanked: 2	Mark IVs suck.... hehe I LOVE mine!!! __________________ "Dude, you need to find the right fucking meds to be on, because you are the most unstable person I know."

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