Jsx vs. Engl blackmore

Crazy German · 09-12-2007, 05:01 PM

Im torn between the two. I really love the lead tone of arch enemy, but for rhythm I usualy play death metal like decapitated. Basicaly what im asking is which amp has the heavier rhythm gain. Thanks in advanced.

p.s I will probaly have a tube screamer in front

Jerich · 09-12-2007, 05:49 PM

this is funny how can you compare these two?

Mazda....Lotus!

Engl man.........

noodles · 09-12-2007, 06:04 PM

Jongpil Yun · 09-12-2007, 06:07 PM

ENGL no contest. ENGL is pretty much the gold standard for heavy, tight, brutal, gainy rhythm tones these days.

Jerich · 09-12-2007, 06:07 PM

made one noodles laugh now two!!

you know i am right right Dave?

999dead666 · 09-12-2007, 06:20 PM

i think you should get the savage not the blackmore

Crazy German · 09-12-2007, 06:47 PM

999dead666 what makes you suggest the savage? From what i herd its a rhythm monster, but im after a smooth creamy lead tone. I can afford so not have an amazing rhythm tone, but but i need that lead tone!

anybody else ate 9 hours of boring uni lecture?

999dead666 · 09-13-2007, 10:01 AM

for me the savage can produce the creamy lead tone your looking for. if its good for rhythm doesnt mean it wont do good solo tone. i tried it with sh-1 in neck and sh-13 bridge and it was great. maybe the sh-1 helped since it has the full sounding to it. you have to take your guitar and try one.

loktide · 09-13-2007, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy German

anybody else ate 9 hours of boring uni
lecture?

i have.. for 3 years

you should be concerned about finding it boring, though...

Nick · 09-13-2007, 10:22 AM

engl hands down

in my last band i played my fireball and our lead player played a JSX. My rythm tone DOMMINATED. Granted his lead tone was fucking amazing. But on a higher spec engl you can use the other channels to get that great lead tone aswell.

Drew · 09-13-2007, 11:18 AM

Yeah, if lead tone is the priority, the JSX might take the edge here. It's certainly designed to be more of a "lead" amplifier. Personally, I dislike active EQ amps, and all Peaveys I've played are SERIOUSLY over-gained for my taste, but I was impressed by the sounds I was getting from the one I played.

budda · 09-13-2007, 03:34 PM

crunch channel = sweeeet rhythm tone. and lead tone. hell, even clean tone.

.. yeah, it's that good :p

999dead666 · 09-13-2007, 03:44 PM

to be honest if i had to choose 2 amps one for solo and 2nd for rhythm, i would take marshall jcm for solos and engl for riffing and solos too. but the marshall got this sweet harmonies and ringing that it so enjoyable to play solos with one

kmanick · 09-13-2007, 03:55 PM

I use a clean boost in front of the crunch and the Ultra channels on my JSX
and with an MXR 10 band EQ in the loop I can set up the rhythm channel
to crush for rhythms (ask Drew he's heard (and played thru) my rig)
and well the ultra channel for leads doesn't really need much help,
but I find that by using the boost in front I can turn
the gain on the head down to say .12:00 noon and that let's me turn down
the on board noise gate to say 11:00 which really opens up the Ultra channel
and kills a lot of that " compressed' tone the JSX throws at you when you dime every control on it.
I've never tried an Engl (on my wish list) so I can't comment on those,
I just wanted to point out that you can get a good "fat " rhythm tone
and still get a good singing lead tone out of
a JSX if you take the time to work with it.

7StringofAblicK · 09-13-2007, 04:24 PM

JSX amps do rule...

Drew · 09-13-2007, 04:31 PM

His Charvel-headstock GMC in drop-D through the Ultra channel would own for like Alice In Chains type riffage.

kmanick · 09-13-2007, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew

His Charvel-headstock GMC in drop-D through the Ultra channel would own for like Alice In Chains type riffage.

I think you meant GMW not GMC

Crazy German · 09-14-2007, 12:32 PM

thanks for all the help guys, I think im gonna try to order both in and test them out, sell which ever I dont like.

7StringofAblicK · 09-14-2007, 12:37 PM

Well bananas...you got some $$ don't you?

If you can do it, do it!

Crazy German · 09-14-2007, 12:39 PM

By buying both ill borrow money form the folks and the gf

, oh well it should be worth it

Benzesp · 09-14-2007, 12:52 PM

Blackmore....Period.

Nick · 09-14-2007, 12:59 PM

your gf gives you money for gear?!?!? whats her number theres a lot of guys on this board that want to give her a call!!

09-12-2007, 05:01 PM	#1
Crazy German ss.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa U Posts: 86 Thanked: 5 / 1	Jsx vs. Engl blackmore Im torn between the two. I really love the lead tone of arch enemy, but for rhythm I usualy play death metal like decapitated. Basicaly what im asking is which amp has the heavier rhythm gain. Thanks in advanced. p.s I will probaly have a tube screamer in front

09-12-2007, 05:49 PM	#2
Jerich ...is bitching Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: ridley park PA Posts: 1,920 Thanked: 18	this is funny how can you compare these two? Mazda....Lotus! Engl man......... __________________ Brunetti Amplifiers Member since 07-02-2004..

09-12-2007, 06:04 PM	#3
noodles I'm your huckleberry Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 17,832 Thanked: 300	__________________ Noodles Division: American Metal without the suck. kxksales@gmail.com "Somewhere along the way, the Straight Talk Express lost some wheels..." --Barack Obama on John McCain

09-12-2007, 06:07 PM	#4
Jongpil Yun Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,339 Thanked: 27	ENGL no contest. ENGL is pretty much the gold standard for heavy, tight, brutal, gainy rhythm tones these days. __________________ Whether it's laughable or irrational, this is the path that ALL great men walk! If there's a wall in our way, we'll destroy it! If there's no road, we'll pave it with our own hands! The magma in our hearts is blazing like flames! Who the hell do you think we are?

09-12-2007, 06:07 PM	#5
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09-12-2007, 06:20 PM	#6
999dead666 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: earth Posts: 314 Thanked: 0	i think you should get the savage not the blackmore

09-12-2007, 06:47 PM	#7
Crazy German ss.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa U Posts: 86 Thanked: 5 / 1	999dead666 what makes you suggest the savage? From what i herd its a rhythm monster, but im after a smooth creamy lead tone. I can afford so not have an amazing rhythm tone, but but i need that lead tone! anybody else ate 9 hours of boring uni lecture?

09-13-2007, 10:01 AM	#8
999dead666 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: earth Posts: 314 Thanked: 0	for me the savage can produce the creamy lead tone your looking for. if its good for rhythm doesnt mean it wont do good solo tone. i tried it with sh-1 in neck and sh-13 bridge and it was great. maybe the sh-1 helped since it has the full sounding to it. you have to take your guitar and try one.

09-13-2007, 10:22 AM	#10
Nick Stop the Madness! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: glasgow scotland Posts: 3,008 Thanked: 21	engl hands down in my last band i played my fireball and our lead player played a JSX. My rythm tone DOMMINATED. Granted his lead tone was fucking amazing. But on a higher spec engl you can use the other channels to get that great lead tone aswell.

09-13-2007, 11:18 AM	#11
Drew Fear the Polo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 21,484 Thanked: 145	Yeah, if lead tone is the priority, the JSX might take the edge here. It's certainly designed to be more of a "lead" amplifier. Personally, I dislike active EQ amps, and all Peaveys I've played are SERIOUSLY over-gained for my taste, but I was impressed by the sounds I was getting from the one I played. __________________ "...and everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon." http://www.metalguitarist.org

09-13-2007, 03:34 PM	#12
budda Guiterrorizer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London ONT Posts: 15,493 Thanked: 132	crunch channel = sweeeet rhythm tone. and lead tone. hell, even clean tone. .. yeah, it's that good :p __________________ Resident counsellor-in-training, awesome dude, and all around nice guy

09-13-2007, 03:44 PM	#13
999dead666 ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: earth Posts: 314 Thanked: 0	to be honest if i had to choose 2 amps one for solo and 2nd for rhythm, i would take marshall jcm for solos and engl for riffing and solos too. but the marshall got this sweet harmonies and ringing that it so enjoyable to play solos with one

09-13-2007, 03:55 PM	#14
kmanick Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BOSTON Posts: 4,583 Thanked: 60	I use a clean boost in front of the crunch and the Ultra channels on my JSX and with an MXR 10 band EQ in the loop I can set up the rhythm channel to crush for rhythms (ask Drew he's heard (and played thru) my rig) and well the ultra channel for leads doesn't really need much help, but I find that by using the boost in front I can turn the gain on the head down to say .12:00 noon and that let's me turn down the on board noise gate to say 11:00 which really opens up the Ultra channel and kills a lot of that " compressed' tone the JSX throws at you when you dime every control on it. I've never tried an Engl (on my wish list) so I can't comment on those, I just wanted to point out that you can get a good "fat " rhythm tone and still get a good singing lead tone out of a JSX if you take the time to work with it. __________________ Can I be the devil on your shoulder?

09-13-2007, 04:24 PM	#15
7StringofAblicK Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,930 Thanked: 25 $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	JSX amps do rule...

09-13-2007, 04:31 PM	#16
Drew Fear the Polo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 21,484 Thanked: 145	His Charvel-headstock GMC in drop-D through the Ultra channel would own for like Alice In Chains type riffage. __________________ "...and everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon." http://www.metalguitarist.org

09-14-2007, 12:32 PM	#18
Crazy German ss.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa U Posts: 86 Thanked: 5 / 1	thanks for all the help guys, I think im gonna try to order both in and test them out, sell which ever I dont like.

09-14-2007, 12:37 PM	#19
7StringofAblicK Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,930 Thanked: 25 $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $7StringofAblicK is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	Well bananas...you got some $$ don't you? If you can do it, do it!

09-14-2007, 12:39 PM	#20
Crazy German ss.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa U Posts: 86 Thanked: 5 / 1	By buying both ill borrow money form the folks and the gf , oh well it should be worth it

09-14-2007, 12:52 PM	#21
Benzesp ComputerBlue Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin,TX Posts: 1,128 Thanked: 29	Blackmore....Period.

09-14-2007, 12:59 PM	#22
Nick Stop the Madness! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: glasgow scotland Posts: 3,008 Thanked: 21	your gf gives you money for gear?!?!? whats her number theres a lot of guys on this board that want to give her a call!!

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