New to tube amps, need feedback on Q:'s

talon97 · 03-03-2007, 10:06 PM

i just got a mesa rectoverb head, and i running it through a marshall 1912 2x12. i play an ibanez 7421 with an emg 707 in the bridge. i play metal. i was wondering
what noise gate to get? i have never owned one or used one, so any idea is a good one.

also what tubes would you use? it is the first series rectoverb that you have to use the 6l6's.

ohio_eric · 03-03-2007, 10:21 PM

There's a bunch of Mesa users on here who can help with the tubes.

For noise gates, the Boss NS-2 and the ISP Decimator are good choices.

technomancer · 03-03-2007, 10:22 PM

Are you looking for a pedal or a rack gate? I've got a Boss NS-2 pedal that I like.

I won't comment on tubes as I don't own a recto, and don't want to do the 'well I've heard'

talon97 · 03-03-2007, 10:29 PM

i would like to just get a petal. for price and transportation reasons.

Leon · 03-03-2007, 10:38 PM

JJ brand tubes.

noodles · 03-03-2007, 10:51 PM

Tung Sol 12AX7 in V1.

budda · 03-04-2007, 02:21 AM

dont crank the gain, crank the volume.

7slinger · 03-04-2007, 03:22 AM

a search on either of your topics will bring up alot of info from older threads...

the consensus seems to be JJ tubes from www.eurotubes.com and either ISP decimator or NS2 for noise suppression/reduction. IIRC there are some players on here that use Hush as well.

I have an ISP and I love it, don't have any experience with the Boss unit.

I have JJ tubes in my DR, they sound great, have been very reliable, and the prices are very competetive...that said this is the first set I've had.

dpm · 03-04-2007, 03:29 AM

JJ's 12AX7's are quite dark sounding while the Tung Sol is brighter. Both seem to be the pick of the litter in current production. Go for short plate 12ax7's if you're using high gain as they don't feedback as easily.

For 6L6's I like th SED's. Haven't tried the JJ's. If you leave the amp stock then get a set suitable for that amp's non-adjustable bias. Modding the amp (go somewhere reputable) would potentially allow the use of EL34's, KT77's etc. I'm really liking KT77's lately.

Stitch · 03-04-2007, 07:54 AM

Noise gates: I use a Boss NS-2 at the front and a Rocktron Hush C and that kills ALL noise apart from transformer hum. Its expensive, but the two together definitely make the difference i wanted. I'd go for an NS-2 simply because its price hasn't increased by $40 as soon as people started using them, and they didn't even redesign the ISP for that price change.

03-03-2007, 10:06 PM	#1
talon97 the ninja from hell Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: were ever the army sends me Posts: 45 Real Name: mike Main Seven: C7 HELLRAISER, SC607 Rig: RECTO,VADER,AVATAR Thanked: 0	New to tube amps, need feedback on Q:'s i just got a mesa rectoverb head, and i running it through a marshall 1912 2x12. i play an ibanez 7421 with an emg 707 in the bridge. i play metal. i was wondering what noise gate to get? i have never owned one or used one, so any idea is a good one. also what tubes would you use? it is the first series rectoverb that you have to use the 6l6's.

03-03-2007, 10:21 PM	#2
ohio_eric He loves you Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,403 Main Seven: Schecter Jeff Loomis Sig Rig: Boss GT-8 Thanked: 180	There's a bunch of Mesa users on here who can help with the tubes. For noise gates, the Boss NS-2 and the ISP Decimator are good choices. The only proof he needed for the existance of God was music. Kurt Vonnegut Jr. Without music, life would be a mistake. Friedrich Nietzsche

03-03-2007, 10:22 PM	#3
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 9,110 Real Name: Steve Main Seven: KxK Sii-7 Rig: Fargen -> Orange Thanked: 53	Are you looking for a pedal or a rack gate? I've got a Boss NS-2 pedal that I like. I won't comment on tubes as I don't own a recto, and don't want to do the 'well I've heard' Incoming Pimptastic KxK Singlecut of Doom Orange 2x12 - Damn am I colorful

03-03-2007, 10:38 PM	#5
Leon {##[====:::. • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Ohio Crew Posts: 11,750 Main Seven: RG7620 of Doom Rig: Mesa / Sovtek Thanked: 78	JJ brand tubes. I have a radical idea. The door swings both ways, we could reverse the particle flow through the gate. We'll cross the streams.

03-03-2007, 10:51 PM	#6
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03-03-2007, 10:29 PM	#4
talon97 the ninja from hell Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: were ever the army sends me Posts: 45 Real Name: mike Main Seven: C7 HELLRAISER, SC607 Rig: RECTO,VADER,AVATAR Thanked: 0	i would like to just get a petal. for price and transportation reasons.

03-04-2007, 02:21 AM	#7
budda Guiterrorizer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Deep River ONT (summer), London ONT (school) Posts: 9,342 Real Name: Justin Main Seven: eventually custom 7 Rig: JSX->XXX w/ WGS CL80 Thanked: 71	dont crank the gain, crank the volume. 3 cheers for free gear! "Do you like burned toast with your JAM? cuz we're on FIRE!"

03-04-2007, 03:22 AM	#8
7slinger wake up dead Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: work...in St. Paul Posts: 2,577 Real Name: Patrick Main Seven: KxK Sii-7 Rig: 5150>TC Gsys>Rec4x12 Thanked: 6	a search on either of your topics will bring up alot of info from older threads... the consensus seems to be JJ tubes from www.eurotubes.com and either ISP decimator or NS2 for noise suppression/reduction. IIRC there are some players on here that use Hush as well. I have an ISP and I love it, don't have any experience with the Boss unit. I have JJ tubes in my DR, they sound great, have been very reliable, and the prices are very competetive...that said this is the first set I've had. DenyThyNature

03-04-2007, 03:29 AM	#9
dpm RnB causes cancer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 2,822 Real Name: Dan Main Seven: Old UV Main ERG: Oni 8 string Rig: modded Laney VC50 Thanked: 19	JJ's 12AX7's are quite dark sounding while the Tung Sol is brighter. Both seem to be the pick of the litter in current production. Go for short plate 12ax7's if you're using high gain as they don't feedback as easily. For 6L6's I like th SED's. Haven't tried the JJ's. If you leave the amp stock then get a set suitable for that amp's non-adjustable bias. Modding the amp (go somewhere reputable) would potentially allow the use of EL34's, KT77's etc. I'm really liking KT77's lately.

03-04-2007, 07:54 AM	#10
Stitch Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 7,228 Real Name: Simon Main Seven: Ibanez RG7420 & S7420FMTW Main ERG: Orion OG8 Rig: Peavey 6505 Thanked: 112	Noise gates: I use a Boss NS-2 at the front and a Rocktron Hush C and that kills ALL noise apart from transformer hum. Its expensive, but the two together definitely make the difference i wanted. I'd go for an NS-2 simply because its price hasn't increased by $40 as soon as people started using them, and they didn't even redesign the ISP for that price change.

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