Tosin (Animals As Leaders) using an Axe-Fx?

[Metalus]

Correct me if im wrong but it looks like hes using a fractal axe-fx in his rack in the background. I cant see the powerball which is his usual amp of choice. This might make sense because he put it up for sale on the AAL myspace. Anyone care to chime in?

[signalgrey]

whoever bought his LACS Ibby mentioned that he switched to an AXE-FX rig. makes sense. his other rig just seemed....redundant. imho of course.

great album though

[Metalus]

Its so sick. Apparently it looks like hes running a VHT 2/50/2 power amp. The tone isnt bad at all. Ive been heavily considering trading my Savage for an Axe-Fx (if its possible lol) and setting up my rig around it.

[mattofvengeance]

You may be able to unload the Savage and, depending on how much auxiliary cash you have, pick up either an Axe Fx Standard or Ultra. There was a dude on rig-talk last week trying to unload an Ultra for 1850 shipped, which is absolutely insane, and it's also why he no longer has it

And yeah, Tosin said on here he was switching to the axe fx when he was trying to sell his powerball. I dunno if he sold it cause I've been trying to get a hold of him, but I would assume he did if he's rockin the axe fx.

[MF_Kitten]

if i had the cash, i would get one myself. i definitely think his change makes sense, considering his style and everything. it´s a really flexible unit

[JohnIce]

Didn't he record the album with the Axe-Fx? Or maybe I'm just assuming things. I figured that making a record with Bulb would quite easily result in that.

I have one and sure enough, it's a definite GAS killer. It's like having a girlfriend with an awesome face, great body, sweet personality and great music taste. Why would you look for girls that only have one of these attributes when you have them all in one already?

I'm not saying the Axe-Fx is the end-all be all for everybody, but I encourage everyone to try one, preferrably if you know someone who already has it tweaked properly to their own system because the presets are crap and you need to spend a lot of time learning how all the parameters work, otherwise you're probably not gonna be too convinced about the unit. The Axe-Fx is not just a substitute for an amp, but for a studio-recorded amp. There's a huge difference there. It's as much a vitrual studio as it is an amp modeller.

Also, the Recordings section on the Axe-Fx forums is awesome! Chack that out.

[S-O]

Originally Posted by JohnIce

Didn't he record the album with the Axe-Fx? Or maybe I'm just assuming things. I figured that making a record with Bulb would quite easily result in that.

I have one and sure enough, it's a definite GAS killer. It's like having a girlfriend with an awesome face, great body, sweet personality and great music taste. Why would you look for girls that only have one of these attributes when you have them all in one already?

I'm not saying the Axe-Fx is the end-all be all for everybody, but I encourage everyone to try one, preferrably if you know someone who already has it tweaked properly to their own system because the presets are crap and you need to spend a lot of time learning how all the parameters work, otherwise you're probably not gonna be too convinced about the unit. The Axe-Fx is not just a substitute for an amp, but for a studio-recorded amp. There's a huge difference there. It's as much a vitrual studio as it is an amp modeller.

Also, the Recordings section on the Axe-Fx forums is awesome! Chack that out.

I am so close to getting an ultra, just gotta hurry up and move shit for teh cashorzs.

Also, I think I remember Bulb saying on here that it was mostly the X3 pro, but I may be dreaming it all up.

[Metalus]

Originally Posted by S-O

I am so close to getting an ultra, just gotta hurry up and move shit for teh cashorzs.

Also, I think I remember Bulb saying on here that it was mostly the X3 pro, but I may be dreaming it all up.

Yeah i think so too. Regardless, its a pretty sick unit. It would make my rig loads smaller and i wouldnt have too worry about having a bunch of rack units and such. Would i be able to do a straight trade for an Axe-Fx standard? I was also thinking of getting a Mesa Power amp to go with it. Maybe something like the Simul-Class or the 50/50. As of right now, Im considering trading the Savage for a Nitro, possibly a roadster or the axe-fx.

[mattofvengeance]

Originally Posted by Metalus

Yeah i think so too. Regardless, its a pretty sick unit. It would make my rig loads smaller and i wouldnt have too worry about having a bunch of rack units and such. Would i be able to do a straight trade for an Axe-Fx standard? I was also thinking of getting a Mesa Power amp to go with it. Maybe something like the Simul-Class or the 50/50. As of right now, Im considering trading the Savage for a Nitro, possibly a roadster or the axe-fx.

Didn't get the sounds you were hoping to from the Savage, huh? I think there might be some people out there who would do the swap for a standard. AFAIK, they're worth roughly the same. Put it up and see what you get

[bulb]

we used my podx3 on the album cuz i didnt have an axefx back then (keep in mind we actually recorded the album over a full year before it was actually released to the public)
tosin really dug my axefx and i told him to get one since he was running a dual amp rig which was huge and complex, when he could get the same results from a single axefx into a stereo poweramp, so now he uses the axefx as such as well as a vintage fender bass amp which sounds huge, i dont know if hes using the fender live or not, but that was the plan when i last talked to him and that amp sounded sick!

[mattofvengeance]

Originally Posted by bulb

we used my podx3 on the album cuz i didnt have an axefx back then (keep in mind we actually recorded the album over a full year before it was actually released to the public)
tosin really dug my axefx and i told him to get one since he was running a dual amp rig which was huge and complex, when he could get the same results from a single axefx into a stereo poweramp, so now he uses the axefx as such as well as a vintage fender bass amp which sounds huge, i dont know if hes using the fender live or not, but that was the plan when i last talked to him and that amp sounded sick!

Right on. So are you using the Axe-Fx in the effects loop of your invader? Also, is it the 100 or the 150?

[JohnIce]

Originally Posted by Metalus

Yeah i think so too. Regardless, its a pretty sick unit. It would make my rig loads smaller and i wouldnt have too worry about having a bunch of rack units and such. Would i be able to do a straight trade for an Axe-Fx standard? I was also thinking of getting a Mesa Power amp to go with it. Maybe something like the Simul-Class or the 50/50. As of right now, Im considering trading the Savage for a Nitro, possibly a roadster or the axe-fx.

With the Axe-Fx, it's also fully possible to run it through powered monitors as well, so you wouldn't need that power amp. When you run into a power amp and guitar cabs, you'd most likely turn off the power amp and cab simulations in the axe, which would theoretically mean you're making your rig LESS versatile. If you only use a few sounds you might prefer this, but it's not always optimal.

I run into active monitors, and if I'm ever in a pinch and can't bring my own, there's usually something I can use at the venue. And the monitor is just for me and the people in the front row anyway, everyone else will hear me from the PA speakers. Such is the awesomeness of dual outputs.

[HighGain510]

Tosin is running an Axe-Fx Ultra, it was mine previously.

[S-O]

Originally Posted by HighGain510

Tosin is running an Axe-Fx Ultra, it was mine previously.

Get his patches!

Even if he'd be running it differently, I could just mix orange 4x12 impulses until I get close to what it'd sound like playing in front of one.

John, what monitor are you using? I was considering either a new QSC K12 or used HPR121i. The K12 is like half the weight of the HPR, so that may be my deciding factor.

[Metalus]

Originally Posted by mattofvengeance

Didn't get the sounds you were hoping to from the Savage, huh? I think there might be some people out there who would do the swap for a standard. AFAIK, they're worth roughly the same. Put it up and see what you get

Well i havent had the money to retube the Savage which is the last resort im going to before i decide to trade or sell. If i dont get the tone i want after retubing it ill definitely put it up

Originally Posted by bulb

we used my podx3 on the album cuz i didnt have an axefx back then (keep in mind we actually recorded the album over a full year before it was actually released to the public)
tosin really dug my axefx and i told him to get one since he was running a dual amp rig which was huge and complex, when he could get the same results from a single axefx into a stereo poweramp, so now he uses the axefx as such as well as a vintage fender bass amp which sounds huge, i dont know if hes using the fender live or not, but that was the plan when i last talked to him and that amp sounded sick!

Damn thats kickass man. So the tone on the album is a PODX3? Thats so awesome dude. The tone is sweet. That album is just more proof that the POD can be used to make a great recording much to the discontent of some people out there lol

Ive really been thinking of getting the Axe-Fx since it will make my rig much smaller and less complex. The only thing really keeping me from that is the fact that i dont knw if ill be able to get the tone i want out of it (Killswitch meets Jeff Loomis-esque tone). Plus theres no way for me to really try one and i dont have the money right now to invest in a poweramp.

Plus the whole digital vs tube thing still factors in i guess lol

Originally Posted by JohnIce

With the Axe-Fx, it's also fully possible to run it through powered monitors as well, so you wouldn't need that power amp. When you run into a power amp and guitar cabs, you'd most likely turn off the power amp and cab simulations in the axe, which would theoretically mean you're making your rig LESS versatile. If you only use a few sounds you might prefer this, but it's not always optimal.

I run into active monitors, and if I'm ever in a pinch and can't bring my own, there's usually something I can use at the venue. And the monitor is just for me and the people in the front row anyway, everyone else will hear me from the PA speakers. Such is the awesomeness of dual outputs.

Hmmm i didnt think of this. I might hafta rethink this lol

Originally Posted by S-O

Get his patches!

Even if he'd be running it differently, I could just mix orange 4x12 impulses until I get close to what it'd sound like playing in front of one.

John, what monitor are you using? I was considering either a new QSC K12 or used HPR121i. The K12 is like half the weight of the HPR, so that may be my deciding factor.

1+ on the patches lol.

What monitors would you recommend John?

[JohnIce]

I'm currently using Mackie's, not sure of the model name but I could dig them up for you if you want. I hear nothing but love for QSC on the Axe-Fx forums though, so it seems that if you have the money then that's what people tend to prefer.

There's also the new Atomic FRFR speaker, which is tube-driven. Since Atomic and Fractal are working together now, I'd assume they'd go very well together as that's what they're designed for. Don't quote me on that though. Appearently it's the world's first tube-driven full range monitor system so who knows, might sound like ass

[Metalus]

Originally Posted by JohnIce

I'm currently using Mackie's, not sure of the model name but I could dig them up for you if you want. I hear nothing but love for QSC on the Axe-Fx forums though, so it seems that if you have the money then that's what people tend to prefer.

There's also the new Atomic FRFR speaker, which is tube-driven. Since Atomic and Fractal are working together now, I'd assume they'd go very well together as that's what they're designed for. Don't quote me on that though. Appearently it's the world's first tube-driven full range monitor system so who knows, might sound like ass

lol alright cool. Imma look into that. I really need a job so i can relieve some of my GAS. I might probably just go with a power amp though since i want an excuse to use my Mesa cab lol

[right_to_rage]

Originally Posted by bulb

we used my podx3 on the album!

This is insane, because I cannot for the life of me be satisfied with the tone on the podx3 for more than one day, yet I was listening to the debut on the bus today and i was just thinking, "great tone". The album is currently my favorite though, so i guess there are no excuses anymore... The stellar performances on the record probably make the difference for the most part though.

[technomancer]

Originally Posted by right_to_rage

This is insane, because I cannot for the life of me be satisfied with the tone on the podx3 for more than one day, yet I was listening to the debut on the bus today and i was just thinking, "great tone". The album is currently my favorite though, so i guess there are no excuses anymore... The stellar performances on the record probably make the difference for the most part though.

Keep in mind Bulb uses a SHITLOAD of post production on anything with the Pod, so it's not like he just ran it into a board and recorded it.