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Unread 04-11-2008, 03:04 AM   #1
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NGD! Bostjan's Custom Oni 8 (56K - Dead milkmen)

New Oni 8 String!

Perpendicular fret = 9th
Scale Length = 600-660 mm (oops)
Width near nut ~ 57 mm

Controls:
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Body and Neck: Sitka Spruce with Carbon Durashield
Fretboard: Acrylized Macassar Ebony w/ Stainless Frets


Thar she is.


Look how sleek and thin. The guitar is light as a feather!


13-Pin Synth Out


Lego Luke Skywalker loves the Carbon Fiber!


...and approves of the ultra-cool truss-rod cover!


He can even levitate the ultralight body using his lego-force.


Ultra fast sleek neck!


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Unread 04-11-2008, 03:11 AM   #2
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That rules. Dan does amazing work!

Tell more about the partial fret.

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WOW. How much was the damage?

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That partial fret idea is interesting....tell us more!
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WOW. How much was the damage?

That all depends on how much attention the girlfriend will get now that the 8-string is in the house.


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Unread 04-11-2008, 04:53 AM   #6
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Egads! What a monstrosity! How do you play that thing with all those strings and those weird looking frets

Couple of corrections to the specs list

Perpendicular fret = 9

Scales = either 590-650, or 600 - 660... I can't remember

Fretboard is acrylized mac ebony which is impervious to moisture and totally stable, and the fabric is pure carbon twill, not carbon/kevlar blend. And it was a bitch to make, a whole lot of things had to be done twice, but it sounds pretty freaking amazing acoustically so I might do it again if the money is right

Seriously though, Bostjan has been immensely patient with me through this project. I can't overstate what a great dude he is to deal with!
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Egads! What a monstrosity! How do you play that thing with all those strings and those weird looking frets

Couple of corrections to the specs list

Perpendicular fret = 9

Scales = either 590-650, or 600 - 660... I can't remember

Fretboard is acrylized mac ebony which is impervious to moisture and totally stable, and the fabric is pure carbon twill, not carbon/kevlar blend. And it was a bitch to make, a whole lot of things had to be done twice, but it sounds pretty freaking amazing acoustically so I might do it again if the money is right

Seriously though, Bostjan has been immensely patient with me through this project. I can't overstate what a great dude he is to deal with!
Very interesting that Bostjan didn't get the stuff right. Maybe he is still undeserving of such a nice 8-string?

Ya did good Dan, Ya did good!


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Unread 04-11-2008, 05:07 AM   #8
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Maybe he's just giddy with excitement
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Wow! Just wow!



How many frets?

Can you tell us more about the construction Dan?

Is it Parker-style with a light body & neck wood surrounded by a carbon skin?

Looks just slick as can be! I love the carbon weave showing through subtly.




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Unread 04-11-2008, 05:21 AM   #10
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Maybe he's just giddy with excitement
That's an understatement. Well, actually he wore himself out with all the excitement and is now passed out(probably on my side of the bed too).


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Unread 04-11-2008, 05:35 AM   #11
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wow, passed out already! I thought he'd have the recto cranked



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How many frets?

Can you tell us more about the construction Dan?

Is it Parker-style with a light body & neck wood surrounded by a carbon skin?
30 frets iirc, can somebody check that for me

It's basically parker style construction minus the carbon fretboard, and with a conventional 2-way truss rod. It's neck through, spruce neck and body, though I put an ebony fillet under the truss rod to ensure it had a solid surface to bear on. Then the fretboard went on, the basic cavities were machined and the whole thing shaped, next was laminating the carbon, then deciding I didn't like the neck shape so sand off all the carbon, reshape it, laminate the carbon again, pay someone to paint it, strip that paint off, buy spray gear, paint it myself.... blah, blah, blah... I think I should stop ruining Bostjan's thread now

Oh yeah, and the frets are stainless.
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Unread 04-11-2008, 05:44 AM   #12
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Wow, well the end result sure looks fantastic!

Bostjan I'm doubly envious of you now


Dan do you plan to make more instruments with this construction style? Does it make a big difference in weight?
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Unread 04-11-2008, 06:01 AM   #13
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It is significantly lighter, and allows shapes that would normally be impossible due to strength. Honestly, the first time you play it feels weird because your mind is telling you something that light must be delicate, it took me a while to become comfortable handling it like normal. I'm definitely doing at least one more, this time from balsa which will decrease weight by maybe 20-30% over the spruce (balsa is less than half the weight of spruce). I'm interested in how the tonal characteristics are effected by the wood vs. the carbon. It might even be possible to make a carbon truss rod now that I think about it I have the balsa already but there's a few more projects to get finished before starting on that.
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It is significantly lighter, and allows shapes that would normally be impossible due to strength. Honestly, the first time you play it feels weird because your mind is telling you something that light must be delicate, it took me a while to become comfortable handling it like normal. I'm definitely doing at least one more, this time from balsa which will decrease weight by maybe 20-30% over the spruce (balsa is less than half the weight of spruce). I'm interested in how the tonal characteristics are effected by the wood vs. the carbon. It might even be possible to make a carbon truss rod now that I think about it I have the balsa already but there's a few more projects to get finished before starting on that.
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Good god, that's stunning, Dan!

I remember reading Parker's tonal description of Spruce, which they used on their Fly Supreme... "lush, lively and ferocious." Sounds exactly like the kind of tone i'd want. And with stainless steel frets and piezos, it's like the extended-range guitar we all wish Parker had made!

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congrats to Bostjan on a great new guitar and congrats to Dan for making it!

I'm interested in that partial fret, too! tell us more about that!
I get how its cool to be able to play microtones, but why just one additional fret then? why in this place? what place is it btw? why only on those strings?....

tell me! tell me!

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....ing killer, i'v been looking at oni 8's for a while now, where can you even get them? i dont know where you look to order one or at the prices and options?

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I don't think there's a site up right now but;

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Wow! That is one beautiful guitar!! Congrats!!

Dan, your work is astounding!
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