Multi-scale Breadwinner and Klien "Replicas"

ElRay · 04-08-2008, 04:36 PM

Here's an article about an Ovation Breadwinner inspired ERG (It's 26″ to 24.75″ scale length, so it's baritone-ish scaled):

And two threads (Part 1 and Part 2)regarding a Klien-inspired multi-scale with an interesting DIY headless tuner. It's barely "baritone-ish scaled" (25.75" to 24.25"), but it's neither standard, nor 7-string, so I'll add it here.

If you download the PDF about the tuners, you'll see there's an "upgraded" version that uses 100tpi optical "nudge" adjusters, but you could use plain-old-extra fine threaded bolts.

Ray

04-08-2008, 04:38 PM

The fan looks a bit weird.

ElRay · 04-08-2008, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desecrated

The fan looks a bit weird.

Yes, the Breadwinner-ish one looks like the fan was adjusted to be parallel at the bridge.

Ray

Justin Bailey · 04-08-2008, 05:30 PM

this is the guy that did the breadwinner-ish ones website:

B & V Woodworks - The Player's Custom Shop - Handmade custom guitars and basses for the working musician

Hes got some nice stuff.

bostjan · 04-08-2008, 05:36 PM

Not bad pricing! What does "splayed fret" mean?

I knew a guy who had a breadwinner that he modded to play microtones. The body style was never really my thing, but I love fanned frets. 24.75"-26" is great for a six string, especially when you don't want to mess with repositioning the bridge (which is very difficult for a DIY-er on a trem-equipped guitar).

Justin Bailey · 04-08-2008, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostjan

Not bad pricing! What does "splayed fret" mean?

I assume that means the same as fanned.

ElRay · 04-08-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostjan

Not bad pricing! What does "splayed fret" mean?

It's the more UK-friendly version of fanned-fret.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostjan

I knew a guy who had a breadwinner that he modded to play microtones.

I think I saw that. Didn't he also add sympathetic drone strings too?

Ray

bostjan · 04-08-2008, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElRay

It's the more UK-friendly version of fanned-fret.

I think I saw that. Didn't he also add sympathetic drone strings too?

Ray

Yes, yes he did, as a matter of fact.

Why do english speakers need to have three or more words for the same thing?

I used to think it was so that more words would rhyme for poetry, but I don't think I've ever seen a poem about multiscale guitars before...or should I say "Ne'er have I laid eyes upon such a wonderful verbal set - as a lyrical sonnet 'bout the multiscale or splayed fret."

04-08-2008, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bostjan

Yes, yes he did, as a matter of fact.

Why do english speakers need to have three or more words for the same thing?

I used to think it was so that more words would rhyme for poetry, but I don't think I've ever seen a poem about multiscale guitars before...or should I say "Ne'er have I laid eyes upon such a wonderful verbal set - as a lyrical sonnet 'bout the multiscale or splayed fret."

We need more poems.

Apophis · 04-09-2008, 08:35 AM

Looks interesting

Durero · 04-11-2008, 04:04 AM

Love the Klein copy. Cool home-made tuners too.

ElRay · 04-11-2008, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durero

Cool home-made tuners too.

Yes, the really nice part is that everything is off-the-shelf. The parts came to about $180 (no tax or shipping) for a 6-string version. Not too bad. I wonder how that compares to the ABM single bridges with tuners now that ABM is back in business. The other big plus is that the ball end doesn't have to be at the bridge. I don't know if it's the same with the ABM individual saddle/bridge/tuner combos.

Ray

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ElRay Mostly Harmless Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Belvidere, IL Posts: 1,190 Thanked: 21 $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	Multi-scale Breadwinner and Klien "Replicas" Here's an article about an Ovation Breadwinner inspired ERG (It's 26″ to 24.75″ scale length, so it's baritone-ish scaled): And two threads (Part 1 and Part 2)regarding a Klien-inspired multi-scale with an interesting DIY headless tuner. It's barely "baritone-ish scaled" (25.75" to 24.25"), but it's neither standard, nor 7-string, so I'll add it here. If you download the PDF about the tuners, you'll see there's an "upgraded" version that uses 100tpi optical "nudge" adjusters, but you could use plain-old-extra fine threaded bolts. Ray __________________ The Ultimate Question: What string gauge is needed for 18.84# of tension when tuned to E2 on a 27" scale guitar?

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Justin Bailey still no seven Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: connecticut the grimmest in the union Posts: 1,436 Thanked: 15	this is the guy that did the breadwinner-ish ones website: B & V Woodworks - The Player's Custom Shop - Handmade custom guitars and basses for the working musician Hes got some nice stuff. __________________ "Engl Powerball miraculously fits my outrage, and shakes my great balls of frost!" Abbath on ENGL Amps

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bostjan Spastic Kitchen! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 6,096 Thanked: 8	Not bad pricing! What does "splayed fret" mean? I knew a guy who had a breadwinner that he modded to play microtones. The body style was never really my thing, but I love fanned frets. 24.75"-26" is great for a six string, especially when you don't want to mess with repositioning the bridge (which is very difficult for a DIY-er on a trem-equipped guitar). __________________ Khereb's myspace

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Apophis ROTER CUSTOM GUITARS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 17,426 Thanked: 67	Looks interesting __________________

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Desecrated Dirty Lurker Posts: n/a	The fan looks a bit weird.

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Durero prototyping... Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 4,228 Thanked: 38	Love the Klein copy. Cool home-made tuners too.

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