Thinking about making the jump to 8 strings

supertruper1988 · 02-22-2008, 06:32 PM

Hey guys i have been kicking around a design for an extended range seven for a while and thought, why not an eight.

Specs:
36 or 38 frets
28 5/8" scale
ebony board
maple/ walnut neck thru
locking tuners
hipshot bridge
EMG 808 or Lundgren M8
1 volume 1 tone
graphtech piezo pickup
Low B to High A tuning

Ishan · 02-22-2008, 06:39 PM

For a high A I'd go 25.5" scale or lower, if not finding strings working would be a pain (ie: only Gary Goodman provide strings tunable to high A at that scale)

supertruper1988 · 02-22-2008, 07:00 PM

i plan on using his strings for it any way

Variant · 02-22-2008, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishan

For a high A I'd go 25.5" scale or lower, if not finding strings working would be a pain (ie: only Gary Goodman provide strings tunable to high A at that scale)

Shorter would be correct answer.

bostjan · 02-22-2008, 08:30 PM

Even with those strings, a high A at 28 5/8" will feel like a cheese slicer.

How about a compound scale to relieve some of the tension on the treble side? Something along the lines of 25.5" to 28" or so, although it may be difficult getting 38 frets in at 25.5", so maybe if you can tune down a little bit?

I really like the rest of your specifications, though.

Kotex · 02-22-2008, 09:24 PM

I like the body design.

Apophis · 02-23-2008, 06:08 AM

^^ but it will be neck heavy imo
and this number of frets

even at straight 30" scale will be almost unplayable in the highest positions. At shorter scale it's not for playing, only for looks

Thrashmanzac · 02-23-2008, 06:12 AM

i like it

TomAwesome · 02-23-2008, 06:18 AM

Pretty cool, but I have to agree with the sentiment about going with a shorter scale if you're tuning B to A. The high A will likely suffer horribly at that scale length, and there's really no reason the low B would need that kind of scale length. I think 25.5" should work fine. Even at 25.5", people have trouble tuning up to high A (they usually settle for G instead), though if you're using Gary's strings, it should be doable.

yevetz · 02-23-2008, 06:31 AM

28 5/8" scale

EMG 808

Lundgren M8

graphtech piezo pickup

02-23-2008, 03:21 PM

If your going to have that many frets you can use garry's string to tune to high G. You will still get some movement and you will still have really high notes.
But I have to vote for a fanned fret design also, if you check out the tuning in a string calculation you'll see that it is somewhat hard to do what you are after with a normal scale.
In my opinion.

02-22-2008, 06:32 PM	#1
supertruper1988 ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Valley of the Sun, AZ Posts: 801 Thanked: 17	Thinking about making the jump to 8 strings Hey guys i have been kicking around a design for an extended range seven for a while and thought, why not an eight. Specs: 36 or 38 frets 28 5/8" scale ebony board maple/ walnut neck thru locking tuners hipshot bridge EMG 808 or Lundgren M8 1 volume 1 tone graphtech piezo pickup Low B to High A tuning

02-22-2008, 06:39 PM	#2
Ishan Giant Fridge Magnet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris, France. Posts: 2,844 Thanked: 17	For a high A I'd go 25.5" scale or lower, if not finding strings working would be a pain (ie: only Gary Goodman provide strings tunable to high A at that scale) __________________ Bloody Murder #5 Current rig : Agile Intrepid Pro with ONI Custom pickup -> ISP Decimator -> Hardwire CM-2 -> Rocktron Piranha -> TC Electronics G-Major -> Marshall 8008 -> Framus 212CS with Celestion G12 Century's

02-22-2008, 08:30 PM	#5
bostjan Spastic Kitchen! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 6,096 Thanked: 8	Even with those strings, a high A at 28 5/8" will feel like a cheese slicer. How about a compound scale to relieve some of the tension on the treble side? Something along the lines of 25.5" to 28" or so, although it may be difficult getting 38 frets in at 25.5", so maybe if you can tune down a little bit? I really like the rest of your specifications, though. __________________ Khereb's myspace

02-22-2008, 09:24 PM	#6
Kotex Trippin' balls Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: East Oakland Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 22 $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Kotex is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	I like the body design. __________________ Too much blood in my alcohol system

02-23-2008, 06:08 AM	#7
Apophis ROTER CUSTOM GUITARS Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 17,458 Thanked: 67	^^ but it will be neck heavy imo and this number of frets even at straight 30" scale will be almost unplayable in the highest positions. At shorter scale it's not for playing, only for looks __________________

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02-22-2008, 07:00 PM	#3
supertruper1988 ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Valley of the Sun, AZ Posts: 801 Thanked: 17	i plan on using his strings for it any way

02-23-2008, 06:12 AM	#8
Thrashmanzac plays in 69/42 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Purnim, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,729 Thanked: 23	i like it __________________ ...Each guitarist has an evil fat 40 year old blueswankler trying to get out, If you give in to temptation you'll be sitting next to a fender playing john lee hooker while trying to keep your combover in place. -Desecrated being black and enjoying watermelon, i think this thread needs more watermelon. budda

02-23-2008, 06:18 AM	#9
TomAwesome I LIKE JUICE!!! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,330 Thanked: 38	Pretty cool, but I have to agree with the sentiment about going with a shorter scale if you're tuning B to A. The high A will likely suffer horribly at that scale length, and there's really no reason the low B would need that kind of scale length. I think 25.5" should work fine. Even at 25.5", people have trouble tuning up to high A (they usually settle for G instead), though if you're using Gary's strings, it should be doable. __________________ "Tom, you're like 1 part a serious dork, and 2 parts the most awesome fucking guy ever." -

02-23-2008, 06:31 AM	#10
yevetz I am a COCK!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kiev (Ukraine) Posts: 8,144 Thanked: 258	28 5/8" scale EMG 808 Lundgren M8 graphtech piezo pickup __________________ Sorry for my english

02-23-2008, 03:21 PM	#11
Desecrated Dirty Lurker Posts: n/a	If your going to have that many frets you can use garry's string to tune to high G. You will still get some movement and you will still have really high notes. But I have to vote for a fanned fret design also, if you check out the tuning in a string calculation you'll see that it is somewhat hard to do what you are after with a normal scale. In my opinion.

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