[GazPots]

Anyone know where i can get a single between 74-80?


80 was too giant and gave me intonation troubles whereas a 74 seems just under what im after.

Looking for something in between but can't find anywhere that sells what im lookin for.

[Ishan]

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Originally Posted by GazPots

Anyone know where i can get a single between 74-80?


80 was too giant and gave me intonation troubles whereas a 74 seems just under what im after.

Looking for something in between but can't find anywhere that sells what im lookin for.

I get all my strings at juststrings.com, except for my SIT 195 because they don't stock it. After trying my damndest to find a shop that has a sufficient selection of singles, I've given up and I'll suffer the shipping charges. Their turnaround is usually 3 or 4 days, and if something is backordered, they ship it for free, generally within a week of your initial order. They simply rock when it comes to appeasing ERG/ERB'ers like myself.

[All_¥our_Bass]

Originally Posted by leandroab

Holy caralho!

.90?

dude.. i forgot about that little detail...
what is the scale on the rg2228? 27" ?
f*ck.. that's thick! I think I will reconsider that plan

I'm even worse. I'm gonna be putting a .95 bass string on my Hello Kitty Squire (25.5" scale) for tunning to F, cause the 85 is too small.

I don't think I wanna know what would happen if I got my hands on a RG2228, i'd probably end up tunning something like

F
Bb
Eb
Ab
Eb
Bb
F
C

[Chonker]

I'm in the process of designing a custom 8 string with large scale length (just tad over 29") and a 8-in a row style headstock.

I've gotten as far as making a fullscale cardboard mockup just to check the scale length looked like it would be playable and it seems okay but I took out a spare .010 ernie ball string and realised that it was to short to go between bridge and machine head!

I've had a look around and there are some companies that make baritone string sets, I presume these are suitable for longer scale length but none seem to be the guages I'm looking for, I'm after something around 10 - 74 I think.

Are ernie's just especially short or am I stuck looking for special strings?

[Ishan]

Try D'addario or GHS for long scale strings.

[blackinfinity]

So I finally jump in this thread, I bought this RG2228 some weeks ago, and are very happy with it in general. However, I was quite surprised of the extremely low tension on the G string. Not even on paper it does seem good, the tension on the strings, should be in balance with each other, so I am not sure what Ibanez was thinking when they made their choice.

It is in my opinion unplayable with that low tension, and you will be limited to only certain type of riffs, i.e fast riffs with fast attack and short sustain, then you will not notice much of the extreme low tension on the G string. I however, I play a hybrid between death/doom metal, I tune in F# now, but I want to go down to F, dropped E is also an alternative

I NEED a full and long sustain on my strings. I also need the strings to have a balanced sustain/sound so that they sound good when I play power chords and different chord formations etc. As it is now, this will not work, powerchords only work in very fast riffs, but not riffs that need full sustain...As it is now, the G string sustain will die kind of quick, while the other strings are still ringing..but not only the sustain is the problem, it also sound very muddy and unclear due the low tension on the G string.

However, I now ask for your expertise to solve this problem, it seem like every one is talking against each other and it seem hard to agree about some fundamental things. If we use one of these tension calculators, it seems like 080 is the absolute minimum if you want "normal" tension on the G string, but how blindly should we trust these numbers in reality ?. Then I read that someone have "intonation" problems with 080 strings, while it seem to work perfectly well for others, so which side should I be on now ? Cause either it work or it does not. I have never used this type of strings before so I am not sure...So what string should I really buy for this guitar ??? give me tips, not many people I ask seem to have much experience with an 8 string guitar..so really hard to get any help..and at my music shop they stand there like question marks and have no idea probably. or they just say "070" might work, without having any deeper insight about how the relation between sustain/string gauge/tuning does work in reality.

And to use such high string guages such as 080, would this lead to any problems such as you are forced to use an very high string height for instance ?

And yes Meshuggah used 090 on their 7 strings, it might work perfectly well for their music, but I also think it is a compromise so not sure if we can use them as an reference, I have heard they had problem with playing for instance power chords back then so it was a compromise for them, it should be solved now with the new 30 scale 8 string guitars though, you can hear it on the new album ObZen quite clear...

[Ishan]

G string? what G string? the Ibby is tuned to F# from the factory. And yea they use some ultra light gauges. I'd get a proper set of strings for it and yea .080 is fine
String tension calculator to the rescue :

len 27"
E   .010" PL == 18.18#
B,  .013" PL == 17.25#
G,  .017" PL == 18.58#
D,  .026" NW == 20.63#
A,, .036" NW == 21.9#
E,, .046" NW == 19.6#
B,,, .060" NW == 19.16#
F,,,# .080" NW == 18.58#
total == 153.88#

so here you have a 10/46 set with .060 low B and a .080 low F#, you'll need to setup intonation and neck relief, and maybe mod the tuner for the .080.

[blackinfinity]

Originally Posted by Ishan

G string? what G string? the Ibby is tuned to F# from the factory. And yea they use some ultra light gauges. I'd get a proper set of strings for it and yea .080 is fine
String tension calculator to the rescue :

len 27"
E   .010" PL == 18.18#
B,  .013" PL == 17.25#
G,  .017" PL == 18.58#
D,  .026" NW == 20.63#
A,, .036" NW == 21.9#
E,, .046" NW == 19.6#
B,,, .060" NW == 19.16#
F,,,# .080" NW == 18.58#
total == 153.88#

so here you have a 10/46 set with .060 low B and a .080 low F#, you'll need to setup intonation and neck relief, and maybe mod the tuner for the .080.

Then I mean the F string then. Mine was actually tuned in G, for some reason, it was not in playable shape however, the strings where not in tune. Not sure if that is an policy Ibanez have, that it should be in playable shape with a proper setup etc.

Yeah, those set of strings are the ones that looks most correct so far, atleast on the paper, I do not know much about string, but will a equal tension really lead to an balanced Sustain, for instance, I can imagine the F string will over drown the thiner string 060 and 046 etc..yeah so the question is really, how it all sounds in reality that is what I mostly interested about , not sure if the tension of the string is in absolute phase in how much sound energy a string produces ?

And 046 on the E string is really thin by the way even though it does look on the paper, I have never ever played with such thin strings on the E string, but, it might sound better then with 052 or 056 ?

and by the way what calculator did you use ?

[Ishan]

Don't forget it's a 27" scale, .046 for E at that scale got plenty of tension. Idealy if your want a real balanced set in feel you should your tension slightly ramping up the lower the string you go.
Ex:

len 27"
E   .009" PL == 14.72#
B,  .012" PL == 14.69#
G,  .016" PL == 16.46#
D,  .024" NW == 17.68#
A,, .034" NW == 19.73#
E,, .046" NW == 19.6#
B,,, .060" NW == 19.16#
F,,,# .085" NW == 20.69#
total == 142.73#

Not perfect but you get the idea. Honestly I think that 10/46+60+80 set is fine for F# and is cheap to try as you only have 2 single strings to buy.

I use this String Guage and Tension Calculator - Version 0.1.4 - 26 apr 1998 , PL=plain strings and NW=Nickel plated steel, all are from D'addario.