[jrf8]

Originally Posted by Ishan

Long scale adds little tension but that's not what's interesting. The real thing is it adds clarity, the longer the scale the better low notes sound.

x100000

lunderns or however its spelled, sound alot better on the lower strings thn 808 do.

[Variant]

Originally Posted by yevetz

But on other guitars my touch is good.....and I don't have problems with it

To be honest, I think your better option here is to go the bigger string route. This worked against me in back on the RG7620 becasue the pups would get overwhelemd and mud up with the heavier gauges on the bottom side of the range. This doesn't happen with the EMG's, they are far clearer, better balanced, and less boomy when subjected to fatter strings. A plus to the lower magnetism of actives. An .080 might be a little much but get a .070or a .075 and try those.

[jrf8]

Originally Posted by muffgoat

If the Ltd steph 8 comes in natural finish i think i found my guitar to buy this year.... unless we get a meshuggah sig.

it probablly wont be out till this up coming fall.

Originally Posted by Desecrated

A ibanez meshuggah signature guitar,
A lot of people wants one,

wont happen, at least not this year and that is a damn shame.

Originally Posted by dpm

Are you trying to say that.... a) the number of truss rods a guitar has affects how a scale length works with a string tuned to a given pitch... and b) that tuning a 6 string to F# with a .068 will somehow damage the neck? Please tell me I've misinterpreted you

no but a double truss rod neck will add more twang imo , i repair and build guitars for a living and i work on alot of rickenbacker basses and their double truss rod on their basses seems to add alot more twang to them even in low tunings, just my opnion.

to get a low F# on 6-string you would have to loosen up truss rod up so much to try and get the strings not to flop, i guess the neck would be fine it just seems pointless, unless the guy was talking about tuning up to F# from standard ? it would be fine kind of strange with that big of guage though i guess.

[TomAwesome]

Why would you have to loosen the truss rod so much? If you increase the gauges so that the tension is about the same as whatever you had before, it shouldn't be an issue. And your comment about saying goodbye to a straight neck still doesn't make much sense, because whether you're loosening or tightening it, the goal is to have an almost straight neck anyway.

Unless I'm missing something in what you said

[Desecrated]

Originally Posted by plyta

Some guy at Meshuggah forum about the 25.5" 8 string

[Michael]

I like that SC one. But does Stephen Carpenter even play 8 strings?

[swedenuck]

He'll probably be moving on to them on their newest material when it hits. Given his obsession with Meshuggah it was just a matter of time.

[Tristoner7]

Awesome, I'm pretty psyched about those ESP 8s. I wanted to get an Ibanez 8 string but felt wierd paying $1500 for a bolt on basswood bodied guitar, 8 or not (no offense if you have a RG2228). I'm a big sucker for value for money and a set-neck/neck thru, mahogany body 8 string with an arched top and neck binding for almost 1/2 to 3/4 the price of the Ibanez is too good to pass up. I'm gonna start saving ASAP.

[jrf8]

Originally Posted by TomAwesome

Why would you have to loosen the truss rod so much? If you increase the gauges so that the tension is about the same as whatever you had before, it shouldn't be an issue. And your comment about saying goodbye to a straight neck still doesn't make much sense, because whether you're loosening or tightening it, the goal is to have an almost straight neck anyway.

Unless I'm missing something in what you said

yeah im sorry i might hav jumped the gun a little i never even thought of tuning to F# on a 6 before, i tryed it on my gibby explorer tonight .068 was the biggest i could go without having to hack into the top nut, couldnt really keep it in tune and i fucked with the truss rod alot, loosened it up as much as it would go before the neck would end up slouching, the gibby is a little shy of a 25 scale. im assuming a 28 or 27 scale 6 could tune fine to F#. but 25 scale seems pretty crazy and incosistent for that low of tunning

[muffgoat]

Originally Posted by jrf8

it probablly wont be out till this up coming fall.

This is awesoooome, thats just enough time to pay off my ibby 8 and get my hands a natural finish 8 that i can fuck with tunings on