Complainin about the 2228, WHY NOT?

neroceasar · 12-09-2007, 11:53 AM

Keep in mind I've never played one but, I already don't like it by the specs. As in the previous forum 27" scale length isn't adequate. However, I also think all sevens should be 27" SL. 25.5 in good enough for C and(a lil sloppy for my taste) B but not for A or G. So i could maybe (just barley) see how possibly 27" might work for F but common for E or (dear god!) D? These days Ibanez should always be looking ahead B/c we just keep dropping the tuning lower and lower. And to all of you who where talking about the 27" on the 8 string be a good move b/c they might get more people to buy one as opposed to a 30" or 29", i Just don't think it would make a difference. I don't think anyone who didn't want a 8-string already(and 8's have always had a varying SL) was like "hmm, I'll drop 1500 on this guitar for me to try out this "8-string" these kids speak of." And this whole 808 thing, I guarantee it's just a glorified 45DC i talked to the emg guy when I was building my 8(never completed) and he said the 45dc was very similar to the 85 but in a 4.5" casing and emg's wed site says the 707 is similar to the 85 so, cutting corners making money??????? And I'll end with these thoughts: when i go to get an 8 i'll build my own or get a custom made one. I don't mean to offend or cause problems just being a douche and letting out my concerns.

tonyhell · 12-09-2007, 12:06 PM

neroceasar · 12-09-2007, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyhell

I'm pretty sure the band on your avatar uses the 2228.

they use 7's currently but they do have the 2228s and most likely will be using them on the next album.

VicerExciser · 12-09-2007, 12:08 PM

old Ion Dissonance ftw

neroceasar · 12-09-2007, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VicerExciser

old Ion Dissonance ftw

Solace was a fuckin brutal album and they gone more to the low end on the guitars in Minus the herd but i still dig it.

canuck brian · 12-09-2007, 12:13 PM

How do you know the 27 inch scale length isn't adequate for the 2228? You've never played one so you don't know what it even feels like. Having Ibanez "looking ahead" to lower and lower tunings doesn't make much sense either. Shouldn't all 6 string guitars also be 27 inch SL then? A lot of bands use 6'ers downtuned.

It's great that you talked to your EMG guy and got that info, but it's been common knowledge that both of the pickups are voiced similar to the 85. We've also got the 81-7. EMG probably didn't see a huge market for 7 string and later 8 string pickups so they used their already existing housings. Smart business move using existing molds and housings instead of building new ones, causing higher costs.

technomancer · 12-09-2007, 12:14 PM

The main problem with everything you say is that there are a bunch of people on here that have actually played / own the guitar and it seems like everybody that's actually touched one loves them

Nice trolling though

12-09-2007, 12:15 PM

I' pretty sure you should try one before you make a statement

Ishan · 12-09-2007, 12:21 PM

I tried one and I agree, the scale is too short if like me, you like good tension AND thin string. If bigger string is not a problem it works fine for F# or F (not lower).
For me the biggest let down is the price tag, far too high for what it is.

yevetz · 12-09-2007, 12:32 PM

NOT COZ

27" is really short scale (as for me) coz I love thin strings.

12-09-2007, 11:53 AM	#1
neroceasar DEATHMETAL!!!!!!!!! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: grand rapids, mi Posts: 332 Real Name: clay Main Seven: Ibanez rg1077xl prestige Rig: MAKO>RIVERA Thanked: 8	Complainin about the 2228, WHY NOT? Keep in mind I've never played one but, I already don't like it by the specs. As in the previous forum 27" scale length isn't adequate. However, I also think all sevens should be 27" SL. 25.5 in good enough for C and(a lil sloppy for my taste) B but not for A or G. So i could maybe (just barley) see how possibly 27" might work for F but common for E or (dear god!) D? These days Ibanez should always be looking ahead B/c we just keep dropping the tuning lower and lower. And to all of you who where talking about the 27" on the 8 string be a good move b/c they might get more people to buy one as opposed to a 30" or 29", i Just don't think it would make a difference. I don't think anyone who didn't want a 8-string already(and 8's have always had a varying SL) was like "hmm, I'll drop 1500 on this guitar for me to try out this "8-string" these kids speak of." And this whole 808 thing, I guarantee it's just a glorified 45DC i talked to the emg guy when I was building my 8(never completed) and he said the 45dc was very similar to the 85 but in a 4.5" casing and emg's wed site says the 707 is similar to the 85 so, cutting corners making money??????? And I'll end with these thoughts: when i go to get an 8 i'll build my own or get a custom made one. I don't mean to offend or cause problems just being a douche and letting out my concerns.

12-09-2007, 12:06 PM	#2
tonyhell DELETE ME Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 347 Main Seven: N/A Thanked: 2	kjh DELETE ME POR FAVOR

12-09-2007, 12:08 PM	#4
VicerExciser Jack the Ripper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indio, California Posts: 709 Real Name: Marvin Main Seven: N/A Rig: Fender FM212R Thanked: 9	old Ion Dissonance ftw I am the one who is always exhuming I am the one you think you see at the darkest of nights I have yet to reconcile the thoughts within myself for still I am one with the dead Oh, sanguine blood of thy corpse Quench my thirst and stain my skin Oh, how ironic it is to feel so alive when you cease to exist... I adore what I have become.

12-09-2007, 12:14 PM	#7
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 8,885 Real Name: Steve Main Seven: KxK Sii-7 Rig: Fargen -> Orange Thanked: 49	The main problem with everything you say is that there are a bunch of people on here that have actually played / own the guitar and it seems like everybody that's actually touched one loves them Nice trolling though Incoming Pimptastic Purple KxK Singlecut of Doom Orange 2x12 - Damn am I colorful

12-09-2007, 12:21 PM	#9
Ishan 0xDEADBEEF Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris, France. Posts: 2,070 Real Name: Yoann Main Seven: What for? Main ERG: 30" Intrepid Pro soon :) Rig: BM>QuadX>SS PA>2x12 Thanked: 13	I tried one and I agree, the scale is too short if like me, you like good tension AND thin string. If bigger string is not a problem it works fine for F# or F (not lower). For me the biggest let down is the price tag, far too high for what it is. Bloody Murder #5

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12-09-2007, 12:13 PM	#6
canuck brian Shred from the North Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,064 Main Seven: Bowes Guitars BBRG-7 Main ERG: Bowes Guitars BBNB-8 Rig: PodXTPVelocity>Doyle Thanked: 27 $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $canuck brian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	How do you know the 27 inch scale length isn't adequate for the 2228? You've never played one so you don't know what it even feels like. Having Ibanez "looking ahead" to lower and lower tunings doesn't make much sense either. Shouldn't all 6 string guitars also be 27 inch SL then? A lot of bands use 6'ers downtuned. It's great that you talked to your EMG guy and got that info, but it's been common knowledge that both of the pickups are voiced similar to the 85. We've also got the 81-7. EMG probably didn't see a huge market for 7 string and later 8 string pickups so they used their already existing housings. Smart business move using existing molds and housings instead of building new ones, causing higher costs.

12-09-2007, 12:15 PM	#8
Desecrated Dirty Lurker Posts: n/a	I' pretty sure you should try one before you make a statement

12-09-2007, 12:32 PM	#10
yevetz Happy? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kiev (Ukraine) Posts: 6,617 Real Name: Vova Main Seven: Ibanez RG 2127 Main ERG: Ibanez RG 2228 Rig: Epiphone Valve Jr. Thanked: 228	NOT COZ 27" is really short scale (as for me) coz I love thin strings. Sorry for my english

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