Wood???

Hcash · 09-07-2007, 07:50 PM

I wanted to know what everyone thought of this wood combination...

Body: Swamp Ash

Top Wood: Black Walnut

Neck: Maple/Wenge/Mahogany/Wenge/Maple

Fretboard: Ebony

Neck Joint: Set thru

And I'll be using a Lundgren nine string pickup...

I'm going for tight lows and sharp highs with a balanced mid.

Pablo · 09-07-2007, 08:20 PM

Well, my preference has always been a plain alder body for ballance and an all maple neck to add to the overall attack and definition...
However, your combo sounds very interesting as well! Keep in mind that the body sides in a neck-through construction add less to the overall tone of an instrument than had it been bolt on or set neck.
Moreover, you fail to mention scale length - a rather important factor in the equation (especially on a 9-string).

Cheers

Eske

skinhead · 09-07-2007, 08:31 PM

The selection it's very nice, in combination. But i think that a mahogany body with a 1/2" maple top would be nicer.

Hcash · 09-07-2007, 08:41 PM

^^^Set-thru. (neck will end before bridge pickup...)

It will be a multi scale: 24.5-28

And the reason I'm staying away from Mahogany is because I have an Ibanez MM baritone, which is all mahogany. And it's a bit muddy in my opinion. And the weight is an issue with it as well. Mahogany and Maple for the body would be a pain. Ash is light so that will help allot. And the neck wood is pretty heavy with the thickness it will have.

Variant · 09-08-2007, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hcash

^^^Set-thru. (neck will end before bridge pickup...)

It will be a multi scale: 24.5-28

And the reason I'm staying away from Mahogany is because I have an Ibanez MM baritone, which is all mahogany. And it's a bit muddy in my opinion. And the weight is an issue with it as well. Mahogany and Maple for the body would be a pain. Ash is light so that will help allot. And the neck wood is pretty heavy with the thickness it will have.

Personally, I'm also not a big fan of mahog...

I always thought the tightness & growl of swamp ash, with sharpness added by a maple top (1/4" minimum thickness) to be the ideal combination. Alder and basswood would be my second choice so far as body woods go. As for fingerboards, to my ears maple and ebony sound equally sharp, while rosewood is a little warmer, but also duller.

Ishan · 09-08-2007, 05:56 PM

I personnaly think basswood is too dead sounding for an 8 string, or at least you need to have some powerfull pickups to make it works (like the RG2228). It's more of the pickups talking than the guitar wich is not optimal IMO.
I'd go for ash with 1/4" walnut top myself, walnut is a bit darker than maple and is much more soulfull (I'd go with oil/wax finish too, it doesn't constraint the wood as much as clear coating). another build I like is maple neck trough with walnut wings, I guess it must sounds very bright but organic

bostjan · 09-08-2007, 06:01 PM

Swamp ash is beautiful wood. Sort of a shame to cover it, but I love the look of walnut. Walnut tops sound pretty balanced, too. Pretty bright, but more of an upper-mid bright and not a scree-type bright.

Not sure about the neck, if you walnut the top, maybe walnut instead of wenge would look nicer, but hey, it still sounds like it would look pretty cool.

Ishan · 09-08-2007, 06:14 PM

I'm thinking of an all walnut neck trough 8 string with a pau fero fretboard. I'm pretty sure it'll sound really good and would look totaly killer with figured walnut wings!

bostjan · 09-08-2007, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishan

I'm thinking of an all walnut neck trough 8 string with a pau fero fretboard. I'm pretty sure it'll sound really good and would look totaly killer with figured walnut wings!

You're speaking my language...I'm in love with Pau Ferro and with Walnut! That guitar would be killer!

sakeido · 09-08-2007, 08:36 PM

Personally I would just go with a maple neck (maybe laminated 5 pieces with wenge or something) set into a swamp ash body. I don't understand the point of increasing your cost so much to get a bunch of different (totally opposing) tonewoods together in one guitar. It would be much easier to anticipate how it is going to sound if you didn't toss a bunch of extra shit in there just for kicks. My 2 cents.

JBroll · 09-10-2007, 01:21 AM

For the body I'd try something like walnut and koa, myself, because I love that stuff on the Carvin guitars and basses I've gotten to play recently.

Jeff

09-07-2007, 07:50 PM	#1
Hcash These Eyes Are Blind Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 450 Thanked: 7	Wood??? I wanted to know what everyone thought of this wood combination... Body: Swamp Ash Top Wood: Black Walnut Neck: Maple/Wenge/Mahogany/Wenge/Maple Fretboard: Ebony Neck Joint: Set thru And I'll be using a Lundgren nine string pickup... I'm going for tight lows and sharp highs with a balanced mid.

09-07-2007, 08:20 PM	#2
Pablo Resident Wanker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aarhus, Denmark Posts: 846 Thanked: 3	Well, my preference has always been a plain alder body for ballance and an all maple neck to add to the overall attack and definition... However, your combo sounds very interesting as well! Keep in mind that the body sides in a neck-through construction add less to the overall tone of an instrument than had it been bolt on or set neck. Moreover, you fail to mention scale length - a rather important factor in the equation (especially on a 9-string). Cheers Eske __________________ "Do be do be do" - Frank Sinatra

09-07-2007, 08:31 PM	#3
skinhead Manager / RHLC © Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,617 Thanked: 52	The selection it's very nice, in combination. But i think that a mahogany body with a 1/2" maple top would be nicer. __________________ Back to da 'hood (sevenstring.org)

09-08-2007, 05:56 PM	#6
Ishan Giant Fridge Magnet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris, France. Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 17	I personnaly think basswood is too dead sounding for an 8 string, or at least you need to have some powerfull pickups to make it works (like the RG2228). It's more of the pickups talking than the guitar wich is not optimal IMO. I'd go for ash with 1/4" walnut top myself, walnut is a bit darker than maple and is much more soulfull (I'd go with oil/wax finish too, it doesn't constraint the wood as much as clear coating). another build I like is maple neck trough with walnut wings, I guess it must sounds very bright but organic __________________ Bloody Murder #5 Current rig : Agile Intrepid Pro with ONI Custom pickup -> ISP Decimator -> Hardwire CM-2 -> Rocktron Piranha -> TC Electronics G-Major -> Marshall 8008 -> Framus 212CS with Celestion G12 Century's

09-08-2007, 06:01 PM	#7
bostjan Spastic Kitchen! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 6,096 Thanked: 8	Swamp ash is beautiful wood. Sort of a shame to cover it, but I love the look of walnut. Walnut tops sound pretty balanced, too. Pretty bright, but more of an upper-mid bright and not a scree-type bright. Not sure about the neck, if you walnut the top, maybe walnut instead of wenge would look nicer, but hey, it still sounds like it would look pretty cool. __________________ Khereb's myspace

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09-07-2007, 08:41 PM	#4
Hcash These Eyes Are Blind Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 450 Thanked: 7	^^^Set-thru. (neck will end before bridge pickup...) It will be a multi scale: 24.5-28 And the reason I'm staying away from Mahogany is because I have an Ibanez MM baritone, which is all mahogany. And it's a bit muddy in my opinion. And the weight is an issue with it as well. Mahogany and Maple for the body would be a pain. Ash is light so that will help allot. And the neck wood is pretty heavy with the thickness it will have.

09-08-2007, 06:14 PM	#8
Ishan Giant Fridge Magnet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris, France. Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 17	I'm thinking of an all walnut neck trough 8 string with a pau fero fretboard. I'm pretty sure it'll sound really good and would look totaly killer with figured walnut wings! __________________ Bloody Murder #5 Current rig : Agile Intrepid Pro with ONI Custom pickup -> ISP Decimator -> Hardwire CM-2 -> Rocktron Piranha -> TC Electronics G-Major -> Marshall 8008 -> Framus 212CS with Celestion G12 Century's

09-08-2007, 08:36 PM	#10
sakeido Is a Pastafarian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Calgary AB Posts: 4,867 Thanked: 248	Personally I would just go with a maple neck (maybe laminated 5 pieces with wenge or something) set into a swamp ash body. I don't understand the point of increasing your cost so much to get a bunch of different (totally opposing) tonewoods together in one guitar. It would be much easier to anticipate how it is going to sound if you didn't toss a bunch of extra shit in there just for kicks. My 2 cents. __________________ _________________________ "Ah, she's built like a steakhouse but she handles like a bistro" - ZB My Soundclick Page

09-10-2007, 01:21 AM	#11
JBroll Hard-On For Freedom™ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX, USA Posts: 4,035 Thanked: 26	For the body I'd try something like walnut and koa, myself, because I love that stuff on the Carvin guitars and basses I've gotten to play recently. Jeff

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