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Old 04-26-2007, 12:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tuning an 8 string down a full step feasible?

Been daydreaming about getting an Ibanez RG2228 and tuning it down one full step so I still have my sevenstring tuned down to "A" with the extra low "E". Is tuning down that far feasible or would it be too much mud? My thinking is that it should work fine but a bassist playing along tuned down so far would likely sound like farting ass hehehe. Anyhow, anyone ever do this?

Again, this is mere daydreaming


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Old 04-26-2007, 12:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Been daydreaming about getting an Ibanez RG2228 and tuning it down one full step so I still have my sevenstring tuned down to "A" with the extra low "E". Is tuning down that far feasible or would it be too much mud? My thinking is that it should work fine but a bassist playing along tuned down so far would likely sound like farting ass hehehe. Anyhow, anyone ever do this?

Again, this is mere daydreaming


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It may took a bit of work and tweaking the EQs just right, but it shouldn't be too muddy. Your bassist may sneer at you for stepping into his frequency territory though

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Old 04-26-2007, 12:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've tuned my Blackjack down to E before. It works.

More to the point though, what string guage to you currently use for a low B? I have a .68, and finding a string that would provide the tension I'm used to in low E is just not going to happen, short of a bass E string. It was playable, but it was WAY looser than I was used to, which admittedly made for some rpetty badass vibrato/squeals.

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Old 04-26-2007, 12:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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you could also just buy a 5 string bass and run it through your amp... Screw the low E... use the Low Low B

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what use do you really have for such a low tuning?

i think F is the Farthest down you can go to without sounding like a bass thru a guitar Amp... anything less is too much
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I don't see why it shouldn't work with appropriate string gauges, and possibly a bass amp.

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My thinking is that it should work fine but a bassist playing along tuned down so far would likely sound like farting ass hehehe.
The regular bass low E is E1, and I assume you mean tuning the bass an octave below this to E0. This would probably require your bassist to invest in some specialized sub cabs like Basson.
http://www.bassonsound.com/b810b.htm

You should talk to the member here who builds basses specifically for this tuning - knucklehead.

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Old 04-26-2007, 12:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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what use do you really have for such a low tuning?
Well, not to say the lowest string would be used the most cause it wouldn't. I'd probably play most material on the first sevenstrings tuned ADGCFAD and only go really low for some slow dark grungy sounds.



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The regular bass low E is E1, and I assume you mean tuning the bass an octave below this to E0. This would probably require your bassist to invest in some specialized sub cabs like Basson.
http://www.bassonsound.com/b810b.htm

You should talk to the member here who builds basses specifically for this tuning - knucklehead.

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http://www.knuckleguitarworks.com/1.html
Yves Carbonne (sp?) uses a low E an octave below a standard bass' bottom string as on the bottom of his 8 string, so it can clearly work, especially given that Garry Goodman and Jauqo III-X are both using strings tuned even lower than that...
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I think that you are going to need some BIG strings!

Something like 80 or 85, inclusive 90.

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Old 04-27-2007, 06:33 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Can't help but think "why?"...

A bass is supposed to occupy those ranges. Buy a bass and a fuzzbox if you need those tones in a normal band context. I can't imagine many people actually wanting to listen to a Solo Instrumentalist using such a tuning... because lets face it, you aren't playing in a rock band anymore once you do such things

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