Strings/Picks for a 27" scale

TechMetal · 06-21-2012, 01:56 AM

Alright, so I have an Agile Septor Elite 727 and cannot for the life of me get the string comfortable/ I'm using an Ernie Ball Standard Slinky set (10-46) and a .58 for the Low A, dropped A tuning, and Dunlop 2.0mm Jazz III's. Seems like everything is okay except for the low A, just doesnt feel tight enough. Maybe it's the picks. Any recommendations?

Levi79 · 06-21-2012, 02:08 AM

on a 27" scale with a .46 the E has 19.6 lbs of tension on it. I'm guessing you're looking for something comparable to that.
A .59 for an A on a 27" scale is 14.7 lbs of tension.
You'd probably want to put a 68 or a 70 on for the low A to have comparable tension to your E. a .68 is 19.3 lbs and a .70 is 20.4 lbs

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Cremated · 06-21-2012, 02:08 AM

Nvm I calculated wrong.

TechMetal · 06-21-2012, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi79

on a 27" scale with a .46 the E has 19.6 lbs of tension on it. I'm guessing you're looking for something comparable to that.
A .59 for an A on a 27" scale is 14.7 lbs of tension.
You'd probably want to put a 68 or a 70 on for the low A to have comparable tension to your E. a .68 is 19.3 lbs and a .70 is 20.4 lbs

Tension calculators are wonderful things.
Hikky Z's String Assembler

Damn, thanks! That just seems insanely tight haha

ImN0tTelling · 06-21-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TechMetal

Damn, thanks! That just seems insanely tight haha

It will feel much better with the extra tension, trust me. When I got my RG7321 that I ordered used from Guitar Center, it had a set of 10's with the same gauge string for both the E and B, causing the B to be flubby as hell. Put a 64 on there and it made a world of difference.

Ishan · 06-21-2012, 11:03 AM

.068 @ A is almost the same tension as .046 @ E. I used that for a while, it worked great (on a 6 in drop A tho)

TechMetal · 06-21-2012, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImN0tTelling

It will feel much better with the extra tension, trust me. When I got my RG7321 that I ordered used from Guitar Center, it had a set of 10's with the same gauge string for both the E and B, causing the B to be flubby as hell. Put a 64 on there and it made a world of difference.

I think I'll try something in the 60-range. 64 just seems hella tight

Wolf 6 · 06-21-2012, 03:49 PM

And I think you'll need a special baritone pick, if I recall correctly.......

MetalDaze · 06-21-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf 6

And I think you'll need a special baritone pick, if I recall correctly.......

That's right....and make sure you get the one for 27" and not 28"

I'm just kidding. If you were using really light picks, I'd recommend something stiffer, but that 2mm is just fine.

TechMetal · 06-21-2012, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalDaze

That's right....and make sure you get the one for 27" and not 28"

I'm just kidding. If you were using really light picks, I'd recommend something stiffer, but that 2mm is just fine.

Thanks man. I play a little better with my 3mm picks, but I think it may just be the loose A that's causing the problems.

EtherealEntity · 06-21-2012, 10:50 PM

The number sounds high man but it's really not. I don't know why there is such a big gauge jump to get equal tension in the lower range, but damn it feels good! Like a whole guitar rather than 6 strings and a low string.

Valennic · 06-21-2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EtherealEntity

The number sounds high man but it's really not. I don't know why there is such a big gauge jump to get equal tension in the lower range, but damn it feels good! Like a whole guitar rather than 6 strings and a low string.

This.

It seems high, it really does, but it works out in the feeling register. After a couple minutes, the uppage in gauge is completely unnoticable, just gone.

EtherealEntity · 06-21-2012, 11:36 PM

^ And then if you ever try light again you wonder what the .... you were thinking

I used to play in drop A with standard 7 string sets..54..wtf..

All_¥our_Bass · 06-22-2012, 09:12 AM

Something in the 64-70 range.

I use a 64 on a 26.5" guitar for B, but I need tighter strings, should be fine for you on a 27" in A, if it still isn't, use a 68 or 70.

This isn't as weird as you think, Karl Sanders often uses 27" customs with a 72 for A.

TechMetal · 06-22-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by All_¥our_Bass

Something in the 64-70 range.

I use a 64 on a 26.5" guitar for B, but I need tighter strings, should be fine for you on a 27" in A, if it still isn't, use a 68 or 70.

This isn't as weird as you think, Karl Sanders often uses 27" customs with a 72 for A.

Yeah, but that's Karl Sanders

I think I'll take the advice and go with atleast a 64, maybe something thicker if needed

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06-21-2012, 01:56 AM	#1
TechMetal guitar wankery Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Placentia, CA Posts: 588 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Strings/Picks for a 27" scale Alright, so I have an Agile Septor Elite 727 and cannot for the life of me get the string comfortable/ I'm using an Ernie Ball Standard Slinky set (10-46) and a .58 for the Low A, dropped A tuning, and Dunlop 2.0mm Jazz III's. Seems like everything is okay except for the low A, just doesnt feel tight enough. Maybe it's the picks. Any recommendations? Musical Adventures

06-21-2012, 02:08 AM	#2
Levi79 SS.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Alberta Posts: 1,680 Thanked: 22 Feedback Score: 30 reviews	on a 27" scale with a .46 the E has 19.6 lbs of tension on it. I'm guessing you're looking for something comparable to that. A .59 for an A on a 27" scale is 14.7 lbs of tension. You'd probably want to put a 68 or a 70 on for the low A to have comparable tension to your E. a .68 is 19.3 lbs and a .70 is 20.4 lbs Tension calculators are wonderful things. Hikky Z's String Assembler Loxodrome and TechMetal like this. Check out my Soundcloud!

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Ishan Giant Fridge Magnet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris, France. Posts: 4,271 Thanked: 25 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	.068 @ A is almost the same tension as .046 @ E. I used that for a while, it worked great (on a 6 in drop A tho) Current rig : Agile Intrepid Pro with Lace Aluma Deathbar pickup -> Eleven Rack + TC G-Major -> ESI Near 5 Experience My string tension calculator STC - supports most D'addarrio and Circle K Strings

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EtherealEntity T=UWx(2xLxF)^2/386.4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southend-on-Sea, Essex, U.K Posts: 8,284 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The number sounds high man but it's really not. I don't know why there is such a big gauge jump to get equal tension in the lower range, but damn it feels good! Like a whole guitar rather than 6 strings and a low string. ImN0tTelling and TechMetal like this.

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EtherealEntity T=UWx(2xLxF)^2/386.4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southend-on-Sea, Essex, U.K Posts: 8,284 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ And then if you ever try light again you wonder what the .... you were thinking I used to play in drop A with standard 7 string sets..54..wtf.. TechMetal likes this.

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All_¥our_Bass Army Without Borders Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zanzibar Land Posts: 6,983 Thanked: 81 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Something in the 64-70 range. I use a 64 on a 26.5" guitar for B, but I need tighter strings, should be fine for you on a 27" in A, if it still isn't, use a 68 or 70. This isn't as weird as you think, Karl Sanders often uses 27" customs with a 72 for A. TechMetal likes this. No Nation. No Philosophy. No Ideology.

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