Agile 10 String. Why? Because F**k You! That's Why!

[MF_Kitten]

Originally Posted by urklvt

Decacordes have been in play for about 200 years.

...., flutes have been used for 42.000-43.000 years!

[Konfyouzd]

[2ManyShoes]

Hmmm . . . makes the 9-string I've got coming in November seem kind of . . . understated?

[EtherealEntity]

Originally Posted by 2ManyShoes

Hmmm . . . makes the 9-string I've got coming in November seem kind of . . . understated?

Simple fix:


I'm going to try this mod on my Vik 9 to make up for the fact that it is now missing a string. Never liked that walnut anyway

[Konfyouzd]

So first 6 strings are missing a string... Now 9s...



If 6 was 9 it'd still be missing 1...

[USMarine75]

^ let the controversy continue...

[Konfyouzd]

Originally Posted by USMarine75

^ let the controversy continue...

You know the question on all of SS.org's mind. Does it djent?

[jake7doyle]

looks good IMO, but way too many strings for me

[ixlramp]

Major thirds E G# C E G# C E G# C E would still be a 5 octave instrument covering the range of bass EADG and guitar EADGBE.

Minor thirds would still have more range than a standard 6. I know there's someone here who is using minor thirds.

Then there's the fun of inserting extra strings into standard tuning: F#B E A D G a B d E for those fascinating close-harmony chords.

[Konfyouzd]

Now we're getting creative.

[abadonae]

I was about to make a thread about this after a quick perusal around the rondo site, but thankfully saw someone had.

This is obscene. I loved their 7's, loved their 8's and found myself wondering what i could do with their 9 string...but this is just utterly ridiculous haha, i think they should've tried to model this more as a touch style instrument...with passive pickups.
It looks pretty much to me like kurt has tried to make a metal designed 10 string shred machine...but literally...10 strings...just damn

[iRaiseTheDead]

Jesus, that is intense.

[USMarine75]

I think the only was you could improve upon a 10-string is... instead of having one guy play it, you could have 2 guys with 4 hands to fret all the strings... but, it might get crowded so you could probably just make it a double neck and split up the strings, or even just make them two separate instruments at that point... now we're getting crazy! lolz...

But for $1100, F it... I'm tempted to buy one just to derp around and see what craziness I could come up with! Honestly, if you could set up a low pass filter and send the low end to one amp that had the distortion rolled back and then the upper register to a Freyette or Engl that was more distorted... or maybe an ISP vector sub? Hmmm... then you wouldnt have the muddiness of that G0 or whatever the F the low 10th string would be...

[chromaticdeath]

So this thing is basicly a 6 string guitar and a 4 string base in one, i can see the advantages of doing bass rythems along with a melody but not for thrash purposes, you may aswell put the lowest 6 strings on that old squire under the bed that doesn't get played anymore and get it out of your system.

Don't laugh i actually did this but with a 7 string set when i was younger, called it my "no frills" 7 strings and used it just for thrashing!

[M3CHK1LLA]

Originally Posted by Stealthdjentstic

1100 for a 10 string. Damn thats crazy cheap.

id buy one if it were a "v"

[Daemoniac]

Not necessary for even my contorted uses of a guitar, but that's not to say there aren't people who couldn't use it. I agree completely with Max though, it feels incomplete without a fanned fretboard - like they just wanted to make a 10 string so they could make a 10 string, but without actually thinking about what would make it useful/playable/appealing as an instrument.

[Hollowway]

I agree that fanning it would really help, but remember that Adam made a 30" 11 string. Cut out the A4 and that's basically what this is. Fanning is one approach to dealing with wide spread pitches, but there are loads of people that prefer not going to longer scales for low pitches, and instead like to use thicker strings. Anyway, since there is only one Agile 10 string my sense is that this was originally a custom shop spec, and then the customer backed out. Who knows, though.

[M3CHK1LLA]

Originally Posted by Hollowway

...Anyway, since there is only one Agile 10 string my sense is that this was originally a custom shop spec, and then the customer backed out. Who knows, though.

why dont you axe him?

[Daemoniac]

Originally Posted by Hollowway

I agree that fanning it would really help, but remember that Adam made a 30" 11 string. Cut out the A4 and that's basically what this is. Fanning is one approach to dealing with wide spread pitches, but there are loads of people that prefer not going to longer scales for low pitches, and instead like to use thicker strings. Anyway, since there is only one Agile 10 string my sense is that this was originally a custom shop spec, and then the customer backed out. Who knows, though.

Very true, I think it's a case of it being such a wide, long board that - generally - it feels like it would make sense to fan it (much like with a 'standard' 25.5" 6 string it feels like it makes more sense to have it normal). That being said though, you're right in that if it was a custom shop order, then it's no reflection whatsoever on Rondo for those specs.

[guy in latvia]

Next thing you know Rondo will make 20-40" fanned 20 strings

[in-pursuit]

Originally Posted by Hollowway

Fanning is one approach to dealing with wide spread pitches, but there are loads of people that prefer not going to longer scales for low pitches, and instead like to use thicker strings.

the almighty Garry Goodman comes to mind....







like Hollowway mentioned, a multiscale instrument is just one way of overcoming the physical restrictions of a guitar style stringed instrument with a very large range. Garry approached that same challenge from a very different perspective and has gone a long way towards overcoming it, the benefits of which have been bestowed on anyone who aspires to tune their guitar to the region of A4.

I personally wouldn't go for a single scale ERG or ERB for that matter, but that's my personal preference and it doesn't determine the value of this instrument to someone who may think differently to me. somewhere out there is someone who will really appreciate this guitar and will get a lot of enjoyment out of playing it, and that's just fine with me

[USMarine75]

Originally Posted by guy in latvia

Next thing you know Rondo will make 20-40" fanned 20 strings

The two things everyone is thinking:

1. That's ....ing stupid...

2. I should hold off buying the 10-string in case I can get this for $1100, too

[JazzandMetal]

I like the idea. You could definitely do something on it. If someone like the ubiquitous Tosin Abasi with enough vision and chops gets one and puts out something pretty groundbreaking like the first Animals as Leaders album, I bet a bunch of people will go nuts over it and a few will actually buy one.

I mean, guys can handle 8 and 9 strings in a metal context which can be a little narrow, and guys like Garry Goodman and people endorsed by Warr guitars play 11 and 12 string basses. There are plenty of people out there who can play the thing with skill.

I want it. Can't afford it.

[RV350ALSCYTHE]

If using it to cover guitar+bass range, which amplification would you require?
I assume a standard guitar amp wouldn't be able to handle the added low end, but would a bassamp be able to sound decent for leads and high-gain?

I love playing guitar and bass and I'd consider one of these if it is able to produce the desired sound from each respective instrument. My 8 string is fun to play some basslines on but through my guitar amps/pickups it can't quite produce the warm deep bass sounds I personally enjoy playing.

[yellow]

Originally Posted by RV350ALSCYTHE

If using it to cover guitar+bass range, which amplification would you require?
I assume a standard guitar amp wouldn't be able to handle the added low end, but would a bassamp be able to sound decent for leads and high-gain?

that's what i'm thinkin. doesn't really make sense from that point from the start - amplification. 8's pushin it already, anything more, well idk.