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Unread 04-22-2012, 09:54 PM   #1
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Question Sweeping

so i have had a 8 string for few weeks now and the biggest thing i have had a problem with is sweeping even or my 6 string i have had problems with it any tips websites etc to help me?
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Unread 04-22-2012, 09:58 PM   #2
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Metronome. There's your tip. It's all you really need.

Metronome is your friend <-repeat that a few thousand times over.
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whats a good sweeping beat ?
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whats a good sweeping beat ?
find the fastest beat that you can play at totally relaxed with absolutely no effort and start moving up from there by 4bpm

don't increase speed until you can play the one you are at totally relaxed with absolutely no effort

also make sure when you are using a metronome, your right hand makes the smooth and elegant sweeping pass over the strings, do not pick each note individually - watch out for this when you're at the lower speeds, because when you start you may end up doing it subconsciously
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You start at a tempo that you can play a sweeping pattern cleanly at, bump up the tempo by 3 bpm and keep practicing, bump up the tempo again, and cycle until you can't play it cleanly, then bump the tempo back down a few notches and practice at that tempo for a while until you feel like you can go back up.

Give your hands frequent breaks if they begin to feel stale. Repetition is always key, but not when you're uncomfortable.
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okay i feel like some times i can do it but then all sudden i cant like its off and on i need to work on it more
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Just keep working at it.

Also, this thread needs to be moved. Where dem Mods at?
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A good beat?

Try playing it like this... E X T R E M E L Y S L O W L Y

Seriously, slow good technique is the best starting point.


Playing to the beat of a slow pulse on a metronome is a good way, once you start getting the technique and shape down effortlessly you'll build speed, and dexterity, the most horrible pattern is the rolling ones for me, I can now do em up to 120 bpm in sixtheenths clean.
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A good beat?

Try playing it like this... E X T R E M E L Y S L O W L Y

Seriously, slow good technique is the best starting point.


Playing to the beat of a slow pulse on a metronome is a good way, once you start getting the technique and shape down effortlessly you'll build speed, and dexterity, the most horrible pattern is the rolling ones for me, I can now do em up to 120 bpm in sixtheenths clean.
nice two sweeps i have been working on are recreant by Chelsea grin and berzerker by after the burial
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basically everything you need to know for technique
Guitar Lesson - John Petrucci - Rock Discipline (Part1) - YouTube

and theres a few extensive tips in here
TOSIN ABASI - ANIMALS AS LEADERS Special Interview @ Dailyhero, Berlin - YouTube

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Dont force sweeping into your style. I have been playing guitar for almost 10 years and I only know a couple sweeps, and I learned those kinda accidentally from learning other songs.

I like the Guthrie Govan approach to arpeggios much better. Just hammer everything on. It makes for a smoother arpeggio.

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Dont force sweeping into your style. I have been playing guitar for almost 10 years and I only know a couple sweeps, and I learned those kinda accidentally from learning other songs.

I like the Guthrie Govan approach to arpeggios much better. Just hammer everything on. It makes for a smoother arpeggio.
ya i under stand that i Liston to lot of music that has sweeping and i feel like its good to know and learn im noy going for something like this lol
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The best tip I got from a guitar teacher was to relax my grip on the pick. Loosen up as far as you can without letting the pick go.

It was like flicking on a light switch. Sweeps ahoy!
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ya i know sweeping takes alot of work
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Do the Steve Morse method...just alternate pick the sweep patterns.

Coming from a noob, I second the advice that you use a metronome. Make sure that you are not only fast enough but are clean as well. There is a lot of muting going on with both hands, being able to move fast enough but not mute will still sound sloppy.
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Go slow and remember that with finesse comes speed. I've noticed techniques like alternate picking and string skipping seem to be more speed intensive whereas tapping, sweeping and--to an extent--legato seem to be more timing/finesse based bc of how you have to hit the notes.



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if you're into ROS you might be into this (you may already have heard them), kind of different territory since its mostly extreme tapping licks.
Psyopus - Insects - YouTube

the guitarist has a few lesson books, the combined lesson book has "FINGER TAPPING & SCALES & VOICINGS GUITAR BOOKS COMBO" all in one if you eventually felt like investing towards that with money (obviously the internet has plenty of sources for free..).
FINGER TAPPING LESSON BOOK FOR GUITAR 300+ EXERCISES!!! | eBay

i only recommended it cause its similar in genre/style, i figured you could tolerate it (though i totally understand if its more so just noise to your ears lol)

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