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Unread 02-19-2012, 06:01 AM   #551
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am i the only one sad that they didn't make the iceman 8? :[
No. It's been mentioned a couple times within this thread. I've taken care of that particular issue for myself though.

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Unread 02-21-2012, 10:05 AM   #552
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There's not 6k in features there, and quality alone isn't going to be worth that much.

Strictly 7 (and many other companies) will build this guitar for a fraction of the price.
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Unread 02-21-2012, 10:20 AM   #553
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How come this thread has degenerated back to the point it was when it was just opened?
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im sure u could build a replica that is the correct scale for less than this
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How come this thread has degenerated back to the point it was when it was just opened?
Uhhh... Because there's been no new information on the guitar. So, there's nothing to do but to discuss the same points. That, plus new people entering the discussion adding their 2 cents.

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I held the guitar at NAMM. It felt lightweight and looked sleek

I placed my deposit last month and there will be a NGD in May or June!

I know of a dealer who has already taken 5 deposits!

I honestly cannot think of a more well spec'd 8 string. The scale is good for an 8 string, the lightweight and bright woods are good for low tunings and well balanced by the warm tone of the rosewood fretboard. The Lundgren pickup is amongst the best. The fretwork is superb. The neck shape and all around specs are the result of years and years of worldwide use and touring as well as years and years of craftsmanship experience! The result is a far superior 8 string to all others! The quality of top Ibanez luthiers and Meshuggah's experience is undeniable! Get it straight!
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I honestly cannot think of a more well spec'd 8 string. The scale is good for an 8 string, the lightweight and bright woods are good for low tunings and well balanced by the warm tone of the rosewood fretboard. The Lundgren pickup is amongst the best. The fretwork is superb. The neck shape and all around specs are the result of years and years of worldwide use and touring as well as years and years of craftsmanship experience! The result is a far superior 8 string to all others! The quality of top Ibanez luthiers and Meshuggah's experience is undeniable! Get it straight!
The ONLY part of your post I'd disagree with is that this is THE best 8 string guitar available. Not because I doubt it's a great guitar, but simply because, like everything related to music, there is no BEST. What works for one person may not work for another. What works amazingly for one person, may only be "meh" for another.

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The ONLY part of your post I'd disagree with is that this is THE best 8 string guitar available. Not because I doubt it's a great guitar, but simply because, like everything related to music, there is no BEST. What works for one person may not work for another. What works amazingly for one person, may only be "meh" for another.


Agreed. Personally I'd much rather have a Mayonez 8 string. Though I wouldn't kick the Meshuggah sig out of bed.
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If someone wants to pay 3-4 times more for the same guitar that I had built for me, that's fine. It must be great having so much money to toss around.
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I honestly cannot think of a more well spec'd 8 string. The scale is good for an 8 string, the lightweight and bright woods are good for low tunings and well balanced by the warm tone of the rosewood fretboard. The Lundgren pickup is amongst the best. The fretwork is superb. The neck shape and all around specs are the result of years and years of worldwide use and touring as well as years and years of craftsmanship experience! The result is a far superior 8 string to all others! The quality of top Ibanez luthiers and Meshuggah's experience is undeniable! Get it straight!
I'm sure that it's a great guitar. If I could afford it, I would love to get it, features seem great. That huge scale must be amazing.

But I still can't justify the price.

I think they should've:
Made a version of a signature guitar thats EXACTLY the same as the artists' (like this one), but then made a more affordable version that doesn't have quite as many little fancy things that jack up the price.
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theres nothing fancy on this guitar to jack up the price besides the names behind the build and behind the signature.
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theres nothing fancy on this guitar to jack up the price besides the names behind the build and behind the signature.
Just as I said, I still can't justify the price. The majority of that pricetag is for the Meshuggah reputation, and the craftsmanship.
But you can't say that there aren't some features that obviously bump the price up.
A couple examples are the lundgren's, the neckthrough design, and the strap locks. All nice little bonuses, but wouldn't wreck the guitar if they weren't included.

If they made a cheaper model it could have different pickups, they could make it bolt-on rather than neckthrough, and no strap locks.

These are just three changes that would allow a more affordable guitar for fans that was still a good instrument.
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Just as I said, I still can't justify the price. The majority of that pricetag is for the Meshuggah reputation, and the craftsmanship.
But you can't say that there aren't some features that obviously bump the price up.
A couple examples are the lundgren's, the neckthrough design, and the strap locks. All nice little bonuses, but wouldn't wreck the guitar if they weren't included.

If they made a cheaper model it could have different pickups, they could make it bolt-on rather than neckthrough, and no strap locks.

These are just three changes that would allow a more affordable guitar for fans that was still a good instrument.
That wouldn't be much of a signature guitar anymore though.

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That wouldn't be much of a signature guitar anymore though.
Did you read my previous comment?
It would be a signature guitat if they made 2 versions, one with the exact artist specs (which would be considered the actual artist SIGNATURE), and then a more affordable version with watered down specs.
I think it'd be a smart move seeing that something like a Meshuggah guitar appeals to so many people, but obviously not everyone can spend $6k.
So making a decent instrument that was inspired by the sig, with different pickups, etc, and made to a lower degree of quality, and selling it for 2 to 3 grand, I feel like many people would buy it, making the consumers happy by being able to buy a meshuggah guitar without selling their car, and ibanez gains more customers they may not of had.

Just an idea.
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Did you read my previous comment?
It would be a signature guitat if they made 2 versions, one with the exact artist specs (which would be considered the actual artist SIGNATURE), and then a more affordable version with watered down specs.
I think it'd be a smart move seeing that something like a Meshuggah guitar appeals to so many people, but obviously not everyone can spend $6k.
So making a decent instrument that was inspired by the sig, with different pickups, etc, and made to a lower degree of quality, and selling it for 2 to 3 grand, I feel like many people would buy it, making the consumers happy by being able to buy a meshuggah guitar without selling their car, and ibanez gains more customers they may not of had.

Just an idea.
Sorry, I didn't read your previous post.

I agree, I do think they could easily make an affordable version (sub-3k street price) without changing the specs that heavily, and just have it built at another factory or such.

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Sorry, I didn't read your previous post.

I agree, I do think they could easily make an affordable version (sub-3k street price) without changing the specs that heavily, and just have it built at another factory or such.
No problem. And yeah, because like others have already said, the features of the guitar aren't that amazing. Make it a bolt on, and have it made in a factory and it'll probably cost
⅓ of the price. I kind of wanna play one just to see how amazing the quality is.
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No problem. And yeah, because like others have already said, the features of the guitar aren't that amazing. Make it a bolt on, and have it made in a factory and it'll probably cost
⅓ of the price. I kind of wanna play one just to see how amazing the quality is.
Mineaswell just get a RG2228 then.
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Mineaswell just get a RG2228 then.
That's my plan haha.
But I mean for the people who want a Meshuggah guitar because its Meshuggah. Or someone that wants a 29.4" scale.
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There's not 6k in features there, and quality alone isn't going to be worth that much.

Strictly 7 (and many other companies) will build this guitar for a fraction of the price.
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theres nothing fancy on this guitar to jack up the price besides the names behind the build and behind the signature.
Constantly bitching about it won't make you able to afford it. If you hate this guitar so much, then stop bitching about it and buy what suits you best. I can't afford this guitar neither, but I'm not bitching about it. Instead, I'll get cheaper instruments that are still high quality, like Carvin.
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Constantly bitching about it won't make you able to afford it. If you hate this guitar so much, then stop bitching about it and buy what suits you best. I can't afford this guitar neither, but I'm not bitching about it. Instead, I'll get cheaper instruments that are still high quality, like Carvin.
It's no wonder no one here likes you.
i've had much the same thoughts of this guitar aswell, but i kept them exactly that, thoughts. i def agree, bitching will get you no where, and constantly bitching will get you neg repped

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i've had much the same thoughts of this guitar aswell, but i kept them exactly that, thoughts. i def agree, bitching will get you no where, and constantly bitching will get you neg repped
And getting neg repped will get you...


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OH MAN I CANT AFFORD THIS.

Anyways, on the megathread there was a new interview posted
and apparently this sig model sounds better than their original customs
hahaha I guess $6k let's you sound better than Meshuggah.

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